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At 07:58 PM 7/21/00 -0500, you wrote:

>Dan Berkow <berkowd

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>>Advaita, "non-twoness"

>>the non-split,

>>non-separated,

>>non-dichotomous nature

>>of actual reality

>>is not a point of view.

>>

>>Any point of view is opposed

>>by a differing point of view.

>>

>>So advaita isn't a point of view.

>

>Advaita is opposed by a differing point of view: Dvaita. Surely you've heard

>of it. This opposition is also inherent in your term, non-twoness.

 

Robert,

If you oppose advaita with dvaita, then your advaita

is dualistic.

 

As the Real is beyond two or not-two,

what will be said about it?

>Rather than dwelling on monism versus multiplicity, how about this for a

>basic dichotomy: either consciousness is derived from physical existence, or

>vice versa.

 

Then, what is the Awareness

which isn't dual or nondual?

If we say 'consciousness'

is different and other

than 'physical existence',

then what is the Awareness that

allowed us to define

each of these in contradistinction

to the other? Being

aware of the relation

of "this" as defined in

constrast with "that," awareness

itself is neither "this" nor "that".

 

Dan

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Dan Berkow <berkowd

>Robert,

>If you oppose advaita with dvaita, then your advaita

> is dualistic.

 

It wasn't my idea to do so. :-) Can't we say that, while reality itself may

be one, philosophy definitely is not? Life as we experience it is full of

duality - light and dark, good and bad, true and false, happiness and

sadness, and so on. The oppositions of philosophy are other aspects of this

apparent multiplicity. And again, while all multiplicity or duality may be

transcended in the ultimate nature of reality, it is still something with

which we must contend in life, just as we have to work, eat, etc. Don't you

agree?

 

Robert.

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>>D:

>>If you oppose advaita with dvaita, then your advaita

>> is dualistic.

>

>R: It wasn't my idea to do so. :-) Can't we say that, while reality itself

may

>be one, philosophy definitely is not? Life as we experience it is full of

>duality - light and dark, good and bad, true and false, happiness and

>sadness, and so on. The oppositions of philosophy are other aspects of this

>apparent multiplicity. And again, while all multiplicity or duality may be

>transcended in the ultimate nature of reality, it is still something with

>which we must contend in life, just as we have to work, eat, etc. Don't you

>agree?

>

>Robert.

 

Robert,

 

The perspective here on This:

 

The Nondual One includes and transcends

the two-ness of so-called duality,

transcends without opposing.

 

If we were to try to avoid or deny

the apparent multiplicity of life,

our very attempt to avoid or deny

would be based on a dualistic understanding.

 

Who is the "me" who seemingly must contend with

the apparent oppositions of life,

the apparent multiplicity?

 

Is this "me" a "something" among other

"somethings"? Or is the "me" that

seems to exist as a bounded "something"

a fictional construct, a conceptual

image and association of images?

 

As the Self that "isn't a something" shines,

the "me" that takes itself to be

a limited "something" disappears.

The latter has no basis to "exist" in the

"shining" of the former.

As "I" and the Reality which gives rise

to all this apparent multiplicity are

not-two, all the apparently multiple

"things" aren't (ultimately) divided, nor

divisible from That.

 

Namaste,

Dan

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