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"f. maiello" wrote:

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>

> re colette's post of "we ARE God" by meister eckhart:

>

> yes, colette, this conveys the very essence of

> advaita; being the knowledge that everything is

> ONE: God Transcendant *is* God Immanent.

>

> advaitam is the fusion of virtually all there is.

> there is nothing outside of the domain of brahman.

> the proclamation that this world is an illusion

> is not what advaita is saying at all! just the

> opposite in fact! the world is an illusion--or,

> more technically accurate to say, *unreal*--under

> very special circumstances, having to do strictly

> and *exclusively* with perception: when [the world]

> or anything within it is regarded as being *apart*

> from its substratum source in brahman. that's it.

> period. as a matter of fact, even this mistake in

> perception is *itself* part of the ineffable totality

> in brahman! in other words, the mistake itself is

> there for an incomprehensible purpose...fitting in

> with the program of the Play (leela) as it applies

> to the parameters of evolution. being ultimately

> inscrutable, it's a major component in the whole

> of the Mystery in/of the nature of brahman. and

> this is what should never be lost sight of!

>

> this is why so many philosophical riddles exist and

> will *permanently* defy resolution. the problem

> against coming to terms with this is the fact that

> the Mind's central thrust is to discover, organize

> and decipher. however, if it ever succeeded--which

> is impossible--we'd wind up stripped of beauty and

> wonder, sterilized in boredom ruled by the death-

> card of Reason! we *subconsciously* know better.

> eventually we'll know it consciously too.

>

> as many erroneously postulate that nirguna brahman

> is the sole reality and the world an illusion, is

> in fact dualism, and is *equally* upheld by all the

> traditional religious interpretations; most notably

> the christian tradition (or 'churchianity' doctrine--

> an accurate name for it!), that talks about this world

> and everything in it including the people are nothing,

> and only God is real....completely divorcing awareness

> in/of this world from the pure consciousness in/of the

> Godhead. however, this is critically misleading and

> in fact a grave mistake. whereas the vedic injunction:

> "all this is brahman" should drive the point home

> clearly and definitively.

>

> virtually everything is ONE, *including* the negative

> polarity in the relative world, such as emotionally

> charged thought waves like revulsion, fear, tragedy,

> violence, and even ignorance itself! these are all

> *vital* components within the spectrum of Relativity,

> which is in turn the Play or leela of brahman.

>

> the fact that when moksha occurs the world continues

> is incompatible with the attitude of branding [the

> world] as illusion. if it were so, there would be

> a continuous antagonism upheld in the midst of one's

> being supposedly free. an antagonism toward this

> world and everything in it. no such battle thrives

> after moksha.

>

> the oftenheard attitude of disgust toward the functions

> of the body for example is really a very specialized

> observation geared to those who are staunch materialists.

> therefore they need to be shaken out of their exclusively

> materialistic view. however, this observational attitude

> is only temporary. later it has to be abandoned to make

> way for the higher teaching.

>

> i used to think it was strange how people would take

> up advaita with such enthusiasm without knowing what

> it really was. i learned this isn't any different

> however from the enthusiasm felt amongst potentially

> *anyone* involving in a new spiritual approach.

> in this case, where for example many Westerners take

> to Eastern religions such as vedanta, buddhism or

> taoism, only the face is changed...whereas the core

> understanding--or lack thereof--remains. nevertheless,

> whatever approach they're adopting, with whatever

> attending attitude, is *vital* for their growth at

> the time; has important lessons in store for them,

> as per their unique place in their spiritual journey.

>

> the thing is, the substratum brahman is ALWAYS with us.

> in fact, **It is who and what we are**. the problem is

> that we're continuously diverted by matters in and of

> this world, and the problem with that is that if and

> when these things occur and make us forget our source,

> therin lies the illusion...therein lies the problem

> that has to be conquered. however, the proverbial

> 'baby' (the world) is not to be thrown away with the

> 'bathwater' (our common mistake in allowing the world

> to rob our awareness of its as well as our own source

> in brahman).

>

> peace,

> frank

 

Now this is the best advice I've seen on my 3 years exploring at least 50

different web forums

looking for Truth.

 

This is Home.

 

Proud to be with you here Frank. This is such a happy message for earth's

children.

 

It's All God.

 

love,

 

Col