Sanyasa and this world

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Surjit Dixit <surjit wrote:

 

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The issue that puzzles me is, going by this second stand, moksha for all

would mean end of human population on this earth. I find this a bit

difficult

to digest. Is that what the divine has been aiming for with all his

marvels?

 

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Dear Shri Surjit,

 

Consider the following utterences by Vedic Maharishis describing their states of

enlightenment:

 

"Prabodhe swaapnawat sarvo vyavahaaro nivartate

 

Etattaduttamum satyam yatra knichit na jaayate."

 

When ENLIGHTENED, just as when one gets up from the dream state and realises

that all that was seen in the dream was indeed false and non existent,this

vyavahara and all that is seen to exist in this vyabaharika stage get dissolved

 

This is the Supreme Truth where nothing whatsoever is created.

 

"Bhidyate hridayagranthihi Chidyante sarva samshayaahaa

 

Ksheeyante chaasyakarmaaNi tasmin dhrishte paraavare"

 

By beholding Him who is high and low, the fetters of the heart are broken,all

doubts are solved and all his karmas (activities and their effrects) wear away.

 

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Or could there be something more that he plans?

 

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In Mandukya Karika Shri Vimuktatman states:

 

"Bhogaartham srishti ityanye kreedartham iti chaapare

 

Devasyaishaswabhaavoyam aaptakaamasya ka spruhaa?"

 

Some consider that the creation was for the Lord's own enjoyment,yet others

consider that He created all this as a play ground for himself. Actually, this

is the Lord's very NATURE,Where is the question of desire for the self

fulfilled ONE?

 

With warm regards,

 

Swaminarayan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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>Swaminarayan T <tvswaminarayan

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>Consider the following utterences by Vedic Maharishis describing their

>states of enlightenment:

>

>"Prabodhe swaapnawat sarvo vyavahaaro nivartate

>

>Etattaduttamum satyam yatra knichit na jaayate."

 

Shree Swaminarayan - can you give me the full reference for the above sloka

- I am quite surprised that it is a Vedic statement.

Hari Om!

sadananda

 

 

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Dear learned members:

Namaskars.

I read with interest all the discussions that have been going on

the issue of moksha and its relation to sanyasa and further the type

of sanyasa that is needed to attain the goal.

 

There is one perspective whereby we perform our duty as a offering to

the divine and rejoice this life thanking the divine for providing

the opportunity to appreciate him. But here the problem is maya catches

up with you fast and you never really get out of the adhyaasa as such.

 

So now the second perspective addressing this problem puts forth the

jyana marg. With the knowledge that the divine is within you, make

an effort to perfect that, jump out of the adhyaasa in all the possible

ways you can ie starting with a physical sanyasa, move towards the goal

in persuit. From most of the discussions we could make out that this is

THE only method if you want to reach all the way upto the goal unless

you

have all the traits of Krishna within you.

 

The issue that puzzles me is, going by this second stand, moksha for all

would mean end of human population on this earth. I find this a bit

difficult

to digest. Is that what the divine has been aiming for with all his

marvels?

Or could there be something more that he plans?

 

with best regards,

Surjit

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Namaste,

 

In case some of the readers have missed this link, the classic

work 'Vedic Concordance' by Maurice Bloomfeld, is now on-line; and

this quotation does not appear in it.

 

http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~witzel/VedicConcordance/ReadmeEng.h

tml

 

 

 

advaitin , "Kuntimaddi Sadananda"

<k_sadananda@h...> wrote:

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> >Swaminarayan T <tvswaminarayan>

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> >Consider the following utterences by Vedic Maharishis describing

their

> >states of enlightenment:

> >

> >"Prabodhe swaapnawat sarvo vyavahaaro nivartate

> >

> >Etattaduttamum satyam yatra knichit na jaayate."

>

> Shree Swaminarayan - can you give me the full reference for the

above sloka

> - I am quite surprised that it is a Vedic statement.

> Hari Om!

> sadananda

>

>

>

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Kuntimaddi Sadananda <k_sadananda wrote:

 

 

 

>Swaminarayan T

>

>Consider the following utterences by Vedic Maharishis describing their

>states of enlightenment:

>

>"Prabodhe swaapnawat sarvo vyavahaaro nivartate

>

>Etattaduttamum satyam yatra knichit na jaayate."

 

Shree Swaminarayan - can you give me the full reference for the above sloka

- I am quite surprised that it is a Vedic statement.

Hari Om!

sadananda

 

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Dear Shri Sadananda,

 

Come to think of it, I merely put down the slokas from memory.Since I do not

have all my notes with me here I am not able to give you the source text off

hand.While the basic ideas in the slokas in my posting are relevent to the

subject therein,this sloka could also be in the Mandukya karika.I am not very

sure! In case other members are able to to throw some light on the same I will

stand corrected.

 

With warm regards,

 

Hari Om !

 

Swaminarayan.

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