Guest guest Posted September 28, 2000 Report Share Posted September 28, 2000 --- "Ravisankar S. Mayavaram" <miinalochanii wrote: > Thu, 14 Sep 2000 15:06:47 -0700 > Reply-to: List for advaita vedanta as taught by Shri Shankara > <ADVAITA-L > "Ravisankar S. Mayavaram" <miinalochanii > Re: shrImatsanatsujAtIyabhAShye Adima.m vAkyam .. > ADVAITA-L > > In the first place I thank Aravind for his valuable posting. Many may > not know Aravind (he has been very quiet all along), but he is a very > knowledgeable person and I hope he will find time to contribute more. > Please read his intro he wrote for . > > /message//99 > > I consider it as good fortune to be in association with people like > him. > > -- > One fundamental problem with Sanksrit is it strings words together > and > IMHO it makes the life of beginner very difficult. With practice one > can overcome this. I have tried to split it a exent it is readable > (please note that I am also a beginner). I might have made many > mistakes (others can correct me). Also a rough translation is given > at > the end. You can find word by word meanings from many online > dictionaries. > > > > shrIH > > svataH chit sat Ananda advitIya brahma svarUpaH api AtmA > sva-ashrayayA > sva-viShyayA avidyA sva-anubhava gamyayA sA bhAsayA > svAbhaavika chit sat Ananda advitIya brahma aatma bhAvAt pracyutaH > anAtmani dehAdau Atma bhAvaM ApannaH aprApta asheSha puruShArthaH > prApta asheSha anarthaH avidyA karma parikalpitaiH eva > sAdhanaiH iShTa prAptiM aniShTa parihR^itiM > cha akAN^xan laukIka vaidIka sAdhanaiH anuShThitaiH api parama > puruShArthe moxAkhyaM alabhamAno > makara aadibhiH iva raaga dveSha aadibhiH itaH tataH AkR^iShyamANaH > sura nara tiryaga aadi prabhedabhinnaasu > nAnAyoniShu parivartamAno muhyamAnaH sa.msaran katha.mchit > puNyavashAt > vedoditena Ishvara artha karma anuShThAnena apagata raaga aadi malaH > anitya aadi doSha darshanena utpanna ihaamutra phala bhoga virAgaH > vedAntebhyaH pratIyamAna.m brahma-atmabhAvam bubhutsuH > vedodita shama dama aadi saadhana sa.mpannaH > brahma vidam AchAryaM upetya AchArya anusAreNa vedAnta shravaNAdinA > aha.m brahmAsmi iti brahma-atma tattvaM avagamya > nivR^itta GYAna tatkAryaH brahma rUpaH avitiShThate itoya.m > vedAntAnA.m > maryAdA | > > > .. iti shrImacchha.mkarabhagavatpAdaiH anugR^ihIte > shrImatsanatsujAtIyabhAShye Adima.m vAkyam .. > > > > In essence it says: > > Considering things like body which are transient and perishable as > aatama one attains harm losing the inherent good and seeks what one > likes and hate what one dislikes. Even if one observes the vedic and > mundane duties, one does not go after the ultimate purushhartham that > is liberation, instead (due to the fruits of action) one sinks deep > in > the ocean of samsara and is tormented and pulled to all sides by the > crocodiles like attachment (raaga) and hatred (dveshha). Due to karma > phala one takes birth as human, deva-s, animals etc in different > wombs > and suffer. Among these (countless jiivas) if one due to good merit, > if > observes the karma with iishvara aarpaNa bhaava (offering the fruits > to > ishvara), then one will realize the futility of the transient things, > become pure through removal desires and will renounce the fruits of > action here and later (in heaven). Then out of desire to seek the > truth, observing qualities like shama, dama, seeking a teacher who > is > a brahma vit, serving him, and through shravaNa manana and > nidhidhyaasana of vedantic truths like "aham brahmaasmi" removes the > ajnaana and its actions. He then remains in the natural > self-effulgent > self-existing state of non-duality sat, chit, aananda. > > -- > This is a rough translation. I have based it on a tamil translation > as > an aid. I just gave myself 15 minutes to do this. So it will > definitely > have errors. > > > > > > ===== > ambaaL daasan > Ravi > sharaNaagata raxakii nivEyani > sadaa ninnu nammiti miinaaxii > http://www.ambaa.org/ > > > > Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! > / > > -- > bhava shankara deshikame sharaNam > > Archives : http://lists.advaita-vedanta.org/archives/advaita-l.html > Help : Email to listmaster > Options : To leave the list send a mail to > listserv with > SIGNOFF ADVAITA-L in the body. ===== ambaaL daasan Ravi sharaNaagata raxakii nivEyani sadaa ninnu nammiti miinaaxii http://www.ambaa.org/ Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2000 Report Share Posted September 28, 2000 - "Ravisankar S. Mayavaram" <miinalochanii > > > > In the first place I thank Aravind for his valuable posting. Many may > > not know Aravind (he has been very quiet all along), but he is a very > > knowledgeable person and I hope he will find time to contribute more. > > Please read his intro he wrote for . > > > > /message//99 > > > > I consider it as good fortune to be in association with people like > > him. > > > > -- Dear Raviji, I wholeheartedly agree with you. Sri Arvind is quite knowledgeble and his humble approach is admirable! I had a chance to exchange personal mails with him during the month of February, and from that experience I could say that it is great to have him here. Yours, Madhava Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2000 Report Share Posted September 28, 2000 --- Aravind Krishna <seeksha wrote: > Thu, 14 Sep 2000 20:06:16 CDT > Reply-to: List for advaita vedanta as taught by Shri Shankara > <ADVAITA-L > Aravind Krishna <seeksha > Re: shrImatsanatsujAtIyabhAShye Adima.m vAkyam .. > ADVAITA-L > > I too attempted a translation (before I saw Ravi?s). I think his > translation > is more cogent, but any way I post mine too, > > .. First sentence of the commentary of Shankara acharya on > sanatsujAtIya .. > > ShrIH > > The very nature of the self (AtamA) being sat chid Ananda brahma > svarUpa is > by itself non-dual. But due to avidhyA, which is self centered, which > pertains to it, which is known on its own accord and which is self > eminent, > this Atama is deprived of its conscious eternal non dual state of > bliss or > brahma svarUpa. Due to this false association of the self with the > body and > other anAtma vastu, he loses his true nature, fails to acquire > pursuits and > becomes miserable. Induced by avidhyA he acts to fulfill his desires > and > avoid misery. He is unable to secure the supreme liberation by both > secular > and shastravihita karmA. Attachment and aversion drives him hither > and > thither like a crocodile and makes him born again and again in > different > wombs as celestial, human, animal and so on. But by the merit of his > good > deeds he acts as advised in the scriptures, dedicates his action to > the lord > there by cultivating mental purity and detachment from the fruit of > action. > He desires to know the nature of the ?brahman? proclaimed in Vedanta, > acquires shama dhama and other qualifications and approaches an > Acharya who > has realized the self. As guided by the Acharya he engages in vedanta > shrvaNa and so on and realizes ?I am Brahman ?. Realized the nature > of self > and void of aGYAna he remains firmly established in the self. This > is the > ultimate goal of all Vedanta. > > (This is a very lose translation, Please indicate > misinterpretations.) > > hariH OM > Aravind > > > > > > > >shrIH > > > >svataH chit sat Ananda advitIya brahma svarUpaH api AtmA > sva-ashrayayA > >sva-viShyayA avidyA sva-anubhava gamyayA sA bhAsayA > >svAbhaavika chit sat Ananda advitIya brahma aatma bhAvAt pracyutaH > >anAtmani dehAdau Atma bhAvaM ApannaH aprApta asheSha puruShArthaH > >prApta asheSha anarthaH avidyA karma parikalpitaiH eva > >sAdhanaiH iShTa prAptiM aniShTa parihR^itiM > >cha akAN^xan laukIka vaidIka sAdhanaiH anuShThitaiH api parama > >puruShArthe moxAkhyaM alabhamAno > >makara aadibhiH iva raaga dveSha aadibhiH itaH tataH AkR^iShyamANaH > >sura nara tiryaga aadi prabhedabhinnaasu > >nAnAyoniShu parivartamAno muhyamAnaH sa.msaran katha.mchit > puNyavashAt > >vedoditena Ishvara artha karma anuShThAnena apagata raaga aadi malaH > >anitya aadi doSha darshanena utpanna ihaamutra phala bhoga virAgaH > >vedAntebhyaH pratIyamAna.m brahma-atmabhAvam bubhutsuH > >vedodita shama dama aadi saadhana sa.mpannaH > >brahma vidam AchAryaM upetya AchArya anusAreNa vedAnta shravaNAdinA > >aha.m brahmAsmi iti brahma-atma tattvaM avagamya > >nivR^itta GYAna tatkAryaH brahma rUpaH avitiShThate itoya.m > vedAntAnA.m > >maryAdA | > > > > > >.. iti shrImacchha.mkarabhagavatpAdaiH anugR^ihIte > >shrImatsanatsujAtIyabhAShye Adima.m vAkyam .. > > > > > > > >In essence it says: > > > >Considering things like body which are transient and perishable as > >aatama one attains harm losing the inherent good and seeks what one > >likes and hate what one dislikes. Even if one observes the vedic and > >mundane duties, one does not go after the ultimate purushhartham > that > >is liberation, instead (due to the fruits of action) one sinks deep > in > >the ocean of samsara and is tormented and pulled to all sides by > the > >crocodiles like attachment (raaga) and hatred (dveshha). Due to > karma > >phala one takes birth as human, deva-s, animals etc in different > wombs > >and suffer. Among these (countless jiivas) if one due to good merit, > if > >observes the karma with iishvara aarpaNa bhaava (offering the fruits > to > >ishvara), then one will realize the futility of the transient > things, > >become pure through removal desires and will renounce the fruits of > >action here and later (in heaven). Then out of desire to seek the > >truth, observing qualities like shama, dama, seeking a teacher who > is > >a brahma vit, serving him, and through shravaNa manana and > >nidhidhyaasana of vedantic truths like "aham brahmaasmi" removes the > >ajnaana and its actions. He then remains in the natural > self-effulgent > >self-existing state of non-duality sat, chit, aananda. > > > >-- > > > _______________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > -- > bhava shankara deshikame sharaNam > > Archives : http://lists.advaita-vedanta.org/archives/advaita-l.html > Help : Email to listmaster > Options : To leave the list send a mail to > listserv with > SIGNOFF ADVAITA-L in the body. ===== ambaaL daasan Ravi sharaNaagata raxakii nivEyani sadaa ninnu nammiti miinaaxii http://www.ambaa.org/ Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! 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