Guest guest Posted September 28, 2000 Report Posted September 28, 2000 --- "Ravisankar S. Mayavaram" <miinalochanii wrote: > Thu, 14 Sep 2000 15:06:47 -0700 > Reply-to: List for advaita vedanta as taught by Shri Shankara > <ADVAITA-L > "Ravisankar S. Mayavaram" <miinalochanii > Re: shrImatsanatsujAtIyabhAShye Adima.m vAkyam .. > ADVAITA-L > > In the first place I thank Aravind for his valuable posting. Many may > not know Aravind (he has been very quiet all along), but he is a very > knowledgeable person and I hope he will find time to contribute more. > Please read his intro he wrote for . > > /message//99 > > I consider it as good fortune to be in association with people like > him. > > -- > One fundamental problem with Sanksrit is it strings words together > and > IMHO it makes the life of beginner very difficult. With practice one > can overcome this. I have tried to split it a exent it is readable > (please note that I am also a beginner). I might have made many > mistakes (others can correct me). Also a rough translation is given > at > the end. You can find word by word meanings from many online > dictionaries. > > > > shrIH > > svataH chit sat Ananda advitIya brahma svarUpaH api AtmA > sva-ashrayayA > sva-viShyayA avidyA sva-anubhava gamyayA sA bhAsayA > svAbhaavika chit sat Ananda advitIya brahma aatma bhAvAt pracyutaH > anAtmani dehAdau Atma bhAvaM ApannaH aprApta asheSha puruShArthaH > prApta asheSha anarthaH avidyA karma parikalpitaiH eva > sAdhanaiH iShTa prAptiM aniShTa parihR^itiM > cha akAN^xan laukIka vaidIka sAdhanaiH anuShThitaiH api parama > puruShArthe moxAkhyaM alabhamAno > makara aadibhiH iva raaga dveSha aadibhiH itaH tataH AkR^iShyamANaH > sura nara tiryaga aadi prabhedabhinnaasu > nAnAyoniShu parivartamAno muhyamAnaH sa.msaran katha.mchit > puNyavashAt > vedoditena Ishvara artha karma anuShThAnena apagata raaga aadi malaH > anitya aadi doSha darshanena utpanna ihaamutra phala bhoga virAgaH > vedAntebhyaH pratIyamAna.m brahma-atmabhAvam bubhutsuH > vedodita shama dama aadi saadhana sa.mpannaH > brahma vidam AchAryaM upetya AchArya anusAreNa vedAnta shravaNAdinA > aha.m brahmAsmi iti brahma-atma tattvaM avagamya > nivR^itta GYAna tatkAryaH brahma rUpaH avitiShThate itoya.m > vedAntAnA.m > maryAdA | > > > .. iti shrImacchha.mkarabhagavatpAdaiH anugR^ihIte > shrImatsanatsujAtIyabhAShye Adima.m vAkyam .. > > > > In essence it says: > > Considering things like body which are transient and perishable as > aatama one attains harm losing the inherent good and seeks what one > likes and hate what one dislikes. Even if one observes the vedic and > mundane duties, one does not go after the ultimate purushhartham that > is liberation, instead (due to the fruits of action) one sinks deep > in > the ocean of samsara and is tormented and pulled to all sides by the > crocodiles like attachment (raaga) and hatred (dveshha). Due to karma > phala one takes birth as human, deva-s, animals etc in different > wombs > and suffer. Among these (countless jiivas) if one due to good merit, > if > observes the karma with iishvara aarpaNa bhaava (offering the fruits > to > ishvara), then one will realize the futility of the transient things, > become pure through removal desires and will renounce the fruits of > action here and later (in heaven). Then out of desire to seek the > truth, observing qualities like shama, dama, seeking a teacher who > is > a brahma vit, serving him, and through shravaNa manana and > nidhidhyaasana of vedantic truths like "aham brahmaasmi" removes the > ajnaana and its actions. He then remains in the natural > self-effulgent > self-existing state of non-duality sat, chit, aananda. > > -- > This is a rough translation. I have based it on a tamil translation > as > an aid. I just gave myself 15 minutes to do this. So it will > definitely > have errors. > > > > > > ===== > ambaaL daasan > Ravi > sharaNaagata raxakii nivEyani > sadaa ninnu nammiti miinaaxii > http://www.ambaa.org/ > > > > Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! > / > > -- > bhava shankara deshikame sharaNam > > Archives : http://lists.advaita-vedanta.org/archives/advaita-l.html > Help : Email to listmaster > Options : To leave the list send a mail to > listserv with > SIGNOFF ADVAITA-L in the body. ===== ambaaL daasan Ravi sharaNaagata raxakii nivEyani sadaa ninnu nammiti miinaaxii http://www.ambaa.org/ Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! Quote
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2000 Report Posted September 28, 2000 - "Ravisankar S. Mayavaram" <miinalochanii > > > > In the first place I thank Aravind for his valuable posting. Many may > > not know Aravind (he has been very quiet all along), but he is a very > > knowledgeable person and I hope he will find time to contribute more. > > Please read his intro he wrote for . > > > > /message//99 > > > > I consider it as good fortune to be in association with people like > > him. > > > > -- Dear Raviji, I wholeheartedly agree with you. Sri Arvind is quite knowledgeble and his humble approach is admirable! I had a chance to exchange personal mails with him during the month of February, and from that experience I could say that it is great to have him here. Yours, Madhava Quote
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2000 Report Posted September 28, 2000 --- Aravind Krishna <seeksha wrote: > Thu, 14 Sep 2000 20:06:16 CDT > Reply-to: List for advaita vedanta as taught by Shri Shankara > <ADVAITA-L > Aravind Krishna <seeksha > Re: shrImatsanatsujAtIyabhAShye Adima.m vAkyam .. > ADVAITA-L > > I too attempted a translation (before I saw Ravi?s). I think his > translation > is more cogent, but any way I post mine too, > > .. First sentence of the commentary of Shankara acharya on > sanatsujAtIya .. > > ShrIH > > The very nature of the self (AtamA) being sat chid Ananda brahma > svarUpa is > by itself non-dual. But due to avidhyA, which is self centered, which > pertains to it, which is known on its own accord and which is self > eminent, > this Atama is deprived of its conscious eternal non dual state of > bliss or > brahma svarUpa. Due to this false association of the self with the > body and > other anAtma vastu, he loses his true nature, fails to acquire > pursuits and > becomes miserable. Induced by avidhyA he acts to fulfill his desires > and > avoid misery. He is unable to secure the supreme liberation by both > secular > and shastravihita karmA. Attachment and aversion drives him hither > and > thither like a crocodile and makes him born again and again in > different > wombs as celestial, human, animal and so on. But by the merit of his > good > deeds he acts as advised in the scriptures, dedicates his action to > the lord > there by cultivating mental purity and detachment from the fruit of > action. > He desires to know the nature of the ?brahman? proclaimed in Vedanta, > acquires shama dhama and other qualifications and approaches an > Acharya who > has realized the self. As guided by the Acharya he engages in vedanta > shrvaNa and so on and realizes ?I am Brahman ?. Realized the nature > of self > and void of aGYAna he remains firmly established in the self. This > is the > ultimate goal of all Vedanta. > > (This is a very lose translation, Please indicate > misinterpretations.) > > hariH OM > Aravind > > > > > > > >shrIH > > > >svataH chit sat Ananda advitIya brahma svarUpaH api AtmA > sva-ashrayayA > >sva-viShyayA avidyA sva-anubhava gamyayA sA bhAsayA > >svAbhaavika chit sat Ananda advitIya brahma aatma bhAvAt pracyutaH > >anAtmani dehAdau Atma bhAvaM ApannaH aprApta asheSha puruShArthaH > >prApta asheSha anarthaH avidyA karma parikalpitaiH eva > >sAdhanaiH iShTa prAptiM aniShTa parihR^itiM > >cha akAN^xan laukIka vaidIka sAdhanaiH anuShThitaiH api parama > >puruShArthe moxAkhyaM alabhamAno > >makara aadibhiH iva raaga dveSha aadibhiH itaH tataH AkR^iShyamANaH > >sura nara tiryaga aadi prabhedabhinnaasu > >nAnAyoniShu parivartamAno muhyamAnaH sa.msaran katha.mchit > puNyavashAt > >vedoditena Ishvara artha karma anuShThAnena apagata raaga aadi malaH > >anitya aadi doSha darshanena utpanna ihaamutra phala bhoga virAgaH > >vedAntebhyaH pratIyamAna.m brahma-atmabhAvam bubhutsuH > >vedodita shama dama aadi saadhana sa.mpannaH > >brahma vidam AchAryaM upetya AchArya anusAreNa vedAnta shravaNAdinA > >aha.m brahmAsmi iti brahma-atma tattvaM avagamya > >nivR^itta GYAna tatkAryaH brahma rUpaH avitiShThate itoya.m > vedAntAnA.m > >maryAdA | > > > > > >.. iti shrImacchha.mkarabhagavatpAdaiH anugR^ihIte > >shrImatsanatsujAtIyabhAShye Adima.m vAkyam .. > > > > > > > >In essence it says: > > > >Considering things like body which are transient and perishable as > >aatama one attains harm losing the inherent good and seeks what one > >likes and hate what one dislikes. Even if one observes the vedic and > >mundane duties, one does not go after the ultimate purushhartham > that > >is liberation, instead (due to the fruits of action) one sinks deep > in > >the ocean of samsara and is tormented and pulled to all sides by > the > >crocodiles like attachment (raaga) and hatred (dveshha). Due to > karma > >phala one takes birth as human, deva-s, animals etc in different > wombs > >and suffer. Among these (countless jiivas) if one due to good merit, > if > >observes the karma with iishvara aarpaNa bhaava (offering the fruits > to > >ishvara), then one will realize the futility of the transient > things, > >become pure through removal desires and will renounce the fruits of > >action here and later (in heaven). Then out of desire to seek the > >truth, observing qualities like shama, dama, seeking a teacher who > is > >a brahma vit, serving him, and through shravaNa manana and > >nidhidhyaasana of vedantic truths like "aham brahmaasmi" removes the > >ajnaana and its actions. He then remains in the natural > self-effulgent > >self-existing state of non-duality sat, chit, aananda. > > > >-- > > > _______________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > -- > bhava shankara deshikame sharaNam > > Archives : http://lists.advaita-vedanta.org/archives/advaita-l.html > Help : Email to listmaster > Options : To leave the list send a mail to > listserv with > SIGNOFF ADVAITA-L in the body. ===== ambaaL daasan Ravi sharaNaagata raxakii nivEyani sadaa ninnu nammiti miinaaxii http://www.ambaa.org/ Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! Quote
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