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The question of the importance of celibacy was brought up on the Advaitin. I

will pass this on to as well.

 

The Sage of Arunachala was often asked questions on celibacy. Ramana

Maharshi invariably taught that physical celibacy was not True Brahmacharya

(To Be With the Self) and gave many examples to demonstrate his points. In

his court deposition regarding the Ashram will, he spoke of Self-Realized

beings who were married and had children. I recall the Sage giving one

example of a Self-Realized Sadhu who engaged in sexual relations with a

dancing girl and had a child by her and was therefore perceived as a fake by

others.

 

As Sunderji has noted, the word celibacy is a poor term to convey the

concept of Brahamacharya (Being with the Self). The practice of celibacy or

regulation of sexual conduct plays a role in Kundalini Yoga. For advanced

Yogis, in whom Kundalini is rising to higher centers and Sahasarara,

celibacy or good regulation of sexual conduct allows maintaining certain

Samadhis for longer periods. However, celibacy is not the only factor.

Another factor is regulation of sleep. All of this can be known only through

meditative experience and not through reading books.

 

Celibacy, therefore, may play a critical role for many people at various

junctures of their spiritual life. Any absolute statements about physical

celibacy should be viewed with caution. They are not consistent with the

highest teachings and are often made by individuals who do not have deep

experiential understanding of the Yogic and Tantric paths and the Samadhis

and states they lead to.

 

For those on the Jnana path, and the devotees of the Sage of Arunachala, the

whole issue of physical celibacy is moot as the practice relates to the

body. Brahmacharya is not a practice. It indicates living in the Self.

 

Ultimately, instead of listening to the "experts" (who on closer examination

may turn out to be novices), one with deep and abiding faith in the Heart,

the Inner Guru, rests in His Own Nature.

 

Love to all

Harsha

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hariH OM!

 

i've been busy lately and was about

to comment on this popular misconception

but harshaji beat me to the punch!

i agree with every single word.

 

namaskaar

 

 

 

Harsha wrote:

>

> The question of the importance of celibacy was brought up on the Advaitin. I

> will pass this on to as well.

>

> The Sage of Arunachala was often asked questions on celibacy. Ramana

> Maharshi invariably taught that physical celibacy was not True Brahmacharya

> (To Be With the Self) and gave many examples to demonstrate his points. In

> his court deposition regarding the Ashram will, he spoke of Self-Realized

> beings who were married and had children. I recall the Sage giving one

> example of a Self-Realized Sadhu who engaged in sexual relations with a

> dancing girl and had a child by her and was therefore perceived as a fake by

> others.

>

> As Sunderji has noted, the word celibacy is a poor term to convey the

> concept of Brahamacharya (Being with the Self). The practice of celibacy or

> regulation of sexual conduct plays a role in Kundalini Yoga. For advanced

> Yogis, in whom Kundalini is rising to higher centers and Sahasarara,

> celibacy or good regulation of sexual conduct allows maintaining certain

> Samadhis for longer periods. However, celibacy is not the only factor.

> Another factor is regulation of sleep. All of this can be known only through

> meditative experience and not through reading books.

>

> Celibacy, therefore, may play a critical role for many people at various

> junctures of their spiritual life. Any absolute statements about physical

> celibacy should be viewed with caution. They are not consistent with the

> highest teachings and are often made by individuals who do not have deep

> experiential understanding of the Yogic and Tantric paths and the Samadhis

> and states they lead to.

>

> For those on the Jnana path, and the devotees of the Sage of Arunachala, the

> whole issue of physical celibacy is moot as the practice relates to the

> body. Brahmacharya is not a practice. It indicates living in the Self.

>

> Ultimately, instead of listening to the "experts" (who on closer examination

> may turn out to be novices), one with deep and abiding faith in the Heart,

> the Inner Guru, rests in His Own Nature.

>

> Love to all

> Harsha

>

>

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I am writing below Swami Vivekananda's obeservations on the practise of celibacy

and the context of Raja Yoga which Sri Jayji mentioned.

 

Swamiji says ,

"The yogis say that part of the human energy which is expressed as sex energy,

in sexual thought, when checked and controlled, easily becomes changed into ojas

and as the muladhara guides these, the yogi pays particular attention to that

center. He tries to take up all his sexual energy and convert it to ojas. It is

only the chaste man or woman who can make the ojas rise and store it in the

brain. That is why chastity has always been considered as the highest virtue. A

man feels that if he is unchaste, spirituality goes away, he loses mental vigour

and moral stamina. That is why in all religions which have produced spiritual

giants you will always find ABSOLUTE CHASTITY insited upon. That is why monks

came into existence, giving up marriage. There must be perfect chastity in

thought , word and deed, without it the practise of Raja Yoga is dangerous and

may lead to insanity. "

 

- The complete works of Swami Vivekananda Vol I.

 

Doubtless, Brahmacharya means being established in Brahman. In Sanskrit the

meaning of Brahmachari is

Brahmani Charati iti Brahmachari. One who follows the path to Brahman is a

Brahmachari.

Sri Ramana Maharshi also observes (Talks with Ramana Maharshi) that practise of

celibacy is an aid to Self Realization.

Further in the Bhagavatam it is mentioned ,

"The practise of continence except for the purpose of procreation, the

performance of regular obligations of life with purity and contentment and

kindness to animals are amongst the duties of a householder".

 

Regards,

Anand

 

 

 

 

 

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anand_natarajan [anand_natarajan]

 

I am writing below Swami Vivekananda's obeservations on the practise of

celibacy and the context of Raja Yoga which Sri Jayji mentioned.

 

Swamiji says ,

"The yogis say that part of the human energy which is expressed as sex

energy, in sexual thought, when checked and controlled, easily becomes

changed into ojas and as the muladhara guides these, the yogi pays

particular attention to that center. He tries to take up all his sexual

energy and convert it to ojas. It is only the chaste man or woman who can

make the ojas rise and store it in the brain. That is why chastity has

always been considered as the highest virtue. A man feels that if he is

unchaste, spirituality goes away, he loses mental vigour and moral stamina.

That is why in all religions which have produced spiritual giants you will

always find ABSOLUTE CHASTITY insited upon. That is why monks came into

existence, giving up marriage. There must be perfect chastity in thought ,

word and deed, without it the practise of Raja Yoga is dangerous and may

lead to insanity. "

 

- The complete works of Swami Vivekananda Vol I.

_____________________

Given the strength of Swamiji's statement, it is indeed our good fortune

that the practitioners and advocates of Raja Yoga on this list are

exceptions to the above mentioned rule and appear to have maintained their

sanity quite well. :-).

 

Love to all

Harsha

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namaste.

 

The discussion in this thread is quite interesting. A small appeal,

however. The discussants seem to be using the words celibacy, chastity

and brahmacarya quite interchangeably. I am sure all know that these

words have quite distinct and different meanings. I do hope that

the discussants use the appropriate word in conveying their thoughts.

 

 

Regards

Gummuluru Murthy

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