Guest guest Posted November 11, 2000 Report Share Posted November 11, 2000 A NET of JEWELS daily meditations for seekers of Truth RAMESH S. BALSEKAR http://www.advaita.org November 12 If an event is accepted and it is accepted that the instrument through which the event occurred is not of the essence, it is so much simpler to be transformed from personality to Impersonality, from individualism to the Universality. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Tranquility means acceptance of what is without wanting to change it. Acceptance of what oneself is without wanting to become something else is freedom. Post message: ANetofJewels Subscribe: ANetofJewels- Un: ANetofJewels- List owner: ANetofJewels-owner URL to this page: ANetofJewels _______ Get your free @ address at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2000 Report Share Posted November 13, 2000 A NET of JEWELS >daily meditations for seekers of Truth >RAMESH S. BALSEKAR >http://www.advaita.org > >Tranquility means acceptance of what is without wanting to change it. >Acceptance of what oneself is without wanting to become something else is >freedom. > I have a problem with this statement without further qualification. I do not agree with the fact that Tranquility means acceptance of what is without wanting to change it. That which is changeless cannot be changed anyway even if one is wanting it. That which is changing will keep changing even if one is wanting it not to change. Tranquility is just to be witness to changing things that includes the witness of the mental states of wanting and not wanting. Being witness it identifies with changeless thing among the changing things. - This is essentially called samabuddhi - equanimity. Hari Om! Sadananda _______________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2000 Report Share Posted November 14, 2000 ANetofJewels , Dan Berkow <berkowd@u...> wrote: Well-said! Namaste, Frank. Love, Dan >I have a problem with this statement without further qualification. I do >not agree with the fact that > >Tranquility means acceptance of what is without wanting to change it. That >which is changeless cannot be changed anyway even if one is wanting it. That >which is changing will keep changing even if one is wanting it not to >change. Tranquility is just to be witness to changing things that includes >the witness of the mental states of wanting and not wanting. Being witness >it identifies with changeless thing among the changing things. - This is >essentially called samabuddhi - equanimity. > > >Hari Om! > > > > > > > >Talk to your friends online with Messenger. > >http://im. > > > > >ANetofJewels- > > > --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2000 Report Share Posted November 14, 2000 ANetofJewels , "Sandeep Chatterjee" <sandeepc@b...> wrote: Hiya Manuel, I understand this post came from another List and maybe this prattling may not reach the sender. Nevertheless, some interesting points are raised. Mis dos centavos.. (hey Manuel, how's that)... <SNIP> > >November 12 > >Tranquility means acceptance of what is without wanting to change it. > >Acceptance of what oneself is without wanting to become something else is > >freedom. > > > > I have a problem with this statement without further qualification. I do > not agree with the fact that > > Tranquility means acceptance of what is without wanting to change it. That > which is changeless cannot be changed anyway even if one is wanting it. That > which is changing will keep changing even if one is wanting it not to > change. Tranquility is just to be witness to changing things that includes > the witness of the mental states of wanting and not wanting. Being witness > it identifies with changeless thing among the changing things. - This is > essentially called samabuddhi - equanimity. There is no dispute whatsoever with the views expressed here. However touching on the subject of concepts, and really why do sages, Masters speak at all, when there is no one to be spoken to, why are concepts bandied about, offered etc. To a conceptual entity in which samabuddhi has occurred, that conceptual entity needs no concepts anymore, for the simple reason that the "entity" to which concepts (any) are of relevance is no more, in a "samabuddhist". That is simple enough. However more importantly, to such a "samabuddhist", all occurrences including the offering of a limited concept to a seeker, is now seen as mere movements of Consciousness. Such a "samabuddhist" now no longer pursues any concepts nor negates any concept, just witnesses them as mere play of Consciousness. There is no more a choosing either for or against anything in phenomenality. To whom is any concept offered? And right through the history of sentience existence, concepts have been offered by all Masters. The "offer of a concept by a Master to a seeker", as an occurrence has happened on numerous occassions and the true Gyani or the real "samabuddhist" sees the offer of a concept to a miserable seeker, as Consciousness exampling compassion to itself. For truly an expression about Truth, which is what a concept is all about, is just an act of compassion for the misery of the seeker in whom the "me-entity" still believes that it can do something, that it needs to do something, to attain. Yes to the seeker who is dry camphor, waiting for a spark to ignite, no concepts are needed, none are offered. A glance, a look, a touch is all the spark that is needed. But all seekers are not dry camphor. Yes it is true no "samabuddhist" will ever need a concept. He/she is Truth, he/she does not need to know ABOUT Truth. It is equally true that the "samabuddhist" which does not see the display of compassion in the dealings between a Master and a seeker, no matter that such dealings may be a corruption, is no "samabuddhist" either. Cheers Sandeep --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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