Guest guest Posted November 22, 2000 Report Share Posted November 22, 2000 hariH OM! below is a response the List may find interesting, to an inquirer's question re whether i think of myself as a jnani or ajnani. namaste ____________________ neither can be an accurate or justifiable claim. consider the following observations: NO-ONE has ever been, is or ever will be more or less a fool than anyone else in this world. the lack of this realization constitutes the common phenomenon of the 'double-fool.' (so-called because they're in fact fools who don't yet realize [that they're fools].) so long as they fail to rightly investigate, it's the intrinsicly naive 'double-fool' who thinks they possess knowledge of the nature of Existence. now, what is a fool? a fool is someone who's discovered that it's impossible to intellectually [or relatively] grasp the nature of What Is. a fool is the embodiment of innocence! a fool is someone who realizes they're immersed in an unfathomable Mystery; that their true nature is impossible to discern--Within and/or Without. on the other hand, the double-fool thinks they found some final answer to Life. and therefore they're in others' faces, evangelizing their righteous viewpoints-- examples are the fundamentalists of the various religions; or renegade ideologists of their meta-zealous self-styled visions.. *demanding* that all others see Life through their unique experiential filters. thus they are the progenetors of intricate personal and social discord. therefore are they ill at ease--in fact spiritually bankrupt within! ...representing the cause of their determined will to conquer (being a critical diversion from facing their forlorn pangs of the terror of Bewilderment.) Socrates has said [paraphrased], "The more I learn, the more I learn how little I know." similar statements/insights with this implication can be found amongst virtually all sages in all cultures of all ages; from Jesus and Buddha to Einstein and Emerson... once one recognizes they are an absolute Fool [in the Mind], is precisely the instant the dam breaks and the light of truth floods the Heart. this is termed variously Self-realization, liberation, enlightenment, ... the fool is the jnani; the zen-idiot; the primal forest dweller; the love-haunted poet; the God-intoxicated mystic; ... the fool is equally found in those brief timeless intervals in *everyone's life* where the ego-Mind machine gets somehow shocked/held in suspended abeyance, allowing the otherwise everpresent Absolute break into the thoughtless bliss of the pure NOW awareness surfing the power-wave of ineffable Being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2000 Report Share Posted November 26, 2000 On Wed, 22 Nov 2000, f. maiello wrote: > hariH OM! > > below is a response the List may find interesting, > to an inquirer's question re whether i think of > myself as a jnani or ajnani. > > namaste > > ____________________ > > neither can be an accurate or justifiable > claim. > > [...] namaste. I enjoyed reading shri Frank maiello's letter. The following may be a minor point, but a point that is to be made nevertheless. "I am a jnAni" is a contradiction in terms. jnAni is jnAnam personified. From that embodiment of jnAnam's perspective, there is no embodiment, no individuality. Thus, that embodiment of jnAnam will not consider that as 'jnAni'. Now, the ajnAnis around would consider that embodiment to be a jnAni. But that is a mistaken association also. You cannot associate embodiment or limitation to jnAnam. Both cannot be associated. jnAnam is infinite. Embodiment is finite. Thus, the term 'jnAni' is a contradiction in terms. Regards Gummuluru Murthy - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2000 Report Share Posted November 26, 2000 Gummuluru Murthy wrote: > > The following may be a minor point, but a point that is to be made > nevertheless. > > "I am a jnAni" is a contradiction in terms. > > jnAni is jnAnam personified. From that embodiment of jnAnam's > perspective, there is no embodiment, no individuality. Thus, > that embodiment of jnAnam will not consider that as 'jnAni'. > > Now, the ajnAnis around would consider that embodiment to be > a jnAni. But that is a mistaken association also. You cannot > associate embodiment or limitation to jnAnam. Both cannot be > associated. jnAnam is infinite. Embodiment is finite. > > Thus, the term 'jnAni' is a contradiction in terms. hariH OM! murthyji- yes, i hold this same view. to further elaborate, not only is the question itself: "do you consider yourself to be a jnani or ajnani?" but so are both its yay or nay replies, holistically impossible to even consider! i say 'holistically' because although the question and answers can have a relatively real connotation within the vyavaharika; they utterly crumble in the paramarthika. thus, any hope or expectation one may have for arriving at some clear and definitive answer--whether yay or nay--to such a question has to go flying out the philosophical window. [from my view] i've come to rest in peace in the inscrutable Mystery of Being. any pursuit in formulating any clear and logically sanctioned description of the nature of brahman's lila, including the nature of any entity or event therein, is like trying to logically pin down the wonder and beauty of love...which is not only metaphysically infeasible; even more significantly, it's undesireable! peace in ONE, frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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