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Question put to Bhagavan ,"In the lives of western

mystics we find marked three periods of purgation,

illumination and union. Does the purgatory period

correspond to the sadhana period of Bhagavan?"

 

Bhagavan : "I know no such period. I never performed

pranayama or japa. I know no mantras. Even when I came

to hear of such things later, I was never attracted by

them. Even now my mind refuses to pay attention to

them. Sadhana implies an object to be gained and the

means of gaining it. What is there to be gained which

we do not already possess?

There was a time when I used to remain with my eyes

closed. That does not mean I was practising any

sadhana then. Even now I sometimes remain with my eyes

closed. If people choose to say, Iam doing sadhana at

that moment, let them say so. People seem to think

that practising som elaborate sadhana, the Self would

some day descend on them as something very big called

Sakshatkaram. The Self is Sakshat all right. But there

is no karam or kritm about it. The word karam imples

one's doing something. But the Self is realized not by

one's doing something but by one's refraining from

doing something, by remaining still and being simply

what one really is. "

 

 

 

 

 

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>Bhagavan : "I know no such period. I never performed

>pranayama or japa. I know no mantras. Even when I came

>to hear of such things later, I was never attracted by

>them. Even now my mind refuses to pay attention to

>them. Sadhana implies an object to be gained and the

>means of gaining it. What is there to be gained which

>we do not already possess?

>There was a time when I used to remain with my eyes

>closed. That does not mean I was practising any

>sadhana then. Even now I sometimes remain with my eyes

>closed. If people choose to say, Iam doing sadhana at

>that moment, let them say so. People seem to think

>that practising som elaborate sadhana, the Self would

>some day descend on them as something very big called

>Sakshatkaram. The Self is Sakshat all right. But there

>is no karam or kritm about it. The word karam imples

>one's doing something. But the Self is realized not by

>one's doing something but by one's refraining from

>doing something, by remaining still and being simply

>what one really is. "

 

 

Shree Ananda Natarajan,

 

Thanks for this post. Bhagavaan always provides a simple yet

profound answers from that absolute state of understanding. It is

refreshing to read Bhagavaan's answers. There is nothing to gain,

nothing to become - but realizing what you already are. Bhagavan is

very fulfulment of the Vedanta teaching as expounded by Advaita,

particularly when there is confusing and sometime contradictory

interpretations of the same Sruties. His life itself is a profound

teaching.

 

Hari Om!

Sadananda

 

 

 

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>Bhagavan : "I know no such period. I never performed

>pranayama or japa. I know no mantras. Even when I came

>to hear of such things later, I was never attracted by

>them. Even now my mind refuses to pay attention to

>them. Sadhana implies an object to be gained and the

>means of gaining it. What is there to be gained which

>we do not already possess?

>There was a time when I used to remain with my eyes

>closed. That does not mean I was practising any

>sadhana then. Even now I sometimes remain with my eyes

>closed. If people choose to say, Iam doing sadhana at

>that moment, let them say so. People seem to think

>that practising som elaborate sadhana, the Self would

>some day descend on them as something very big called

>Sakshatkaram. The Self is Sakshat all right. But there

>is no karam or kritm about it. The word karam imples

>one's doing something. But the Self is realized not by

>one's doing something but by one's refraining from

>doing something, by remaining still and being simply

>what one really is. "

 

The truth of this is yet to be fully recognized. Truth/Brahman

is not something which is totally apart from you - something

fantastic which bursts upon you on enlightenment - something

ecstastic which lifts you up to the realm of gods. It is basically

our imagination which tries to make something fantastic out of

it - because we need it to be fantastic/worthy to give up our

normal lives, which we think is pleasurable.

 

Brahman is always a part of you even in your day to day life,

every second. That's why Nagarjuna and Shankara say that Reality

is to be experienced - here and now.

 

Just go and sit in a corner and try to be yourself. When I say

yourself - I mean to be yourself alone without being bothered

by thoughts, desires etc Just try to be calm with full cognition

of yourself. You will find that you cannot even maintain such

a position for two seconds. Your thoughts will fly - desires

will spring upon you - you'll have an immense urge to get up

and do something. (those who debate on issues like freewill, can

try this exercise and decide for yourselves).

 

It is basically this urge to "be something" - "becoming" which

prevents you from being yourself. "the seers searched inside

their hearts and found *desire* to be the bond between Being

and Becoming".

 

Desire is karma - every action has an underlying desire. Karma is

a very natural part of our being. A normal person cannot be without

thoughts/acting for even a single second. And this is what prevents

one from being himself/herself.

 

So liberation is not anything fantastic that gives greater pleasure

than our pleasurable lives. But that our life of karma - samsara -

which we consider pleasurable, is actually fraught with suffering. Man

is like a puppet dangling on the rope of karma who's not really aware

of the extent of suffering that he's experiencing in his life. With

an ascent in awareness, the world of suffering becomes clearer. With

increasing clarity about samsara, there's greater desire to be apart

from it by being oneself (mumukshutvam). So Enlightenment is nothing

but being awake to this suffering and transcending it by abiding in

one's own self. To be above the life of suffering - samsara - itself

is bliss. One can realize the value of this bliss, only when one

realizes (not intellectually understands) the true nature of samsara.

 

 

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