Guest guest Posted December 12, 2000 Report Share Posted December 12, 2000 advaitin , "sunder hattangadi" <sunderh@h...> wrote: > Namaste, > > This 'SILENCE' is NOT the opposite of 'speech'! This state > is 'anirvachaniiya', yet holds in Itself infinite potential of > everything 'vachaniiya'. > > Even the word 'IS' can produce a thought of 'WHAT IS NOT'. Isness is not thought. Yet as you say ~ from That source everything arises including thought. Does everything start to manifest as a thought in the Mind of God? Is Cosmic Mind empty yet full? Last night I was enjoying reading Almaas' 'Essence' book. "Essence is the direct experience of existence .. Of course, essence can be experienced as other things, such as love, truth peace, & the like. But the sense of existence is its most basic characteristic. It is the clearest, most definitive aspect that sets it apart from other categories of experience. Essence is, & that is what is most basic to its experience. This experience of "I am", of direct apprehension of existence, is not a mental or emotional experience & cannot be understood from the perspective of the usual categrories of experience. The mind can think about existence but it cannot reach it .. What is essence & what is it in us that can experience "I am"? Essence is the only thing in us that is directly aware of its own existence ... One might argue that all people know that they exist, although they might not know their essence, This is both true & false. They know they exist, but they do not know it directly. The usual knowledge of existence is by inference; it is not a direct knowledge .. The experience of essence as existence, the experience of "I am" is not as if there is a subject that is the actor of existence. The "I" & the "am" are not separate. The "I am" is a unitary experience. The nature of the essence, of the real self, is existence. The "I" itself is existence .. It is the real part in us, the part not conditioned or produced by the environment. It is our intrinsic nature .. Essence is not simply the only part of us that is aware of its existence. It is what exists. It is not only what exists, but it is also existence. This existence is not only the nature of man but the nature of everything .. Essence is not a thought or an idea a person has about himself. It is not self image. In fact, the self image, the collection of concepts one has of oneself, is one of the main barriers to the recognition & development of essence. " A. H. Almaas Peace, Col The > sages who have traversed the path tell us that THAT state is 'svataH > pramaaNa' only, and Guru and Shastra pramaaNa are aids only. > > The undisputed conclusion is 'svataH pramaaNa' only. > > > Regards, > > s. > > > > advaitin , Swaminarayan T <tvswaminarayan> > wrote: > > > > "Silence" has its opposite in "speach" > > Brahman is without "opposites". > > So, what is Dakshinaamurty teaching his deciples by > > being "silent"? > > > > I feel that this 'silence' is only a means to the end. > > > > Vimuktatma Bhagavan in his invocatory sloka in his > > Ishta sidhi says: > > "Atmaiko Nishkriyo Ananto Advayo ANUBHAVA VIGRAHAHAA, > > Atamastajja Atmastho Jyotisham Jyotihi Atmabhaah." > > > > The Drg Drsya Viveka states: Existance,Conciousness > > and Bliss which are the natural characteristics of > > Sakshin appear to inhere in the Jiva.With the > > disappearance of the Jivahood they merge in > > Sakshin,that is,Brahman, which is none other than the > > Self itself. > > > > Again, The Sruti declares thus: > > > > "Sad eva idam agra aaseet,Ekam eva Adviteeyam". > > > > Realising this Original State of 'Sat',the ultimate > > Truth, should not the sadhaka give up even > > Conciousness and Bliss and be just " IS " ? > > > > Then again, any state of "being" for the sadhaka has > > to be in this state of ' Vyavaharikaa' only!! If so, > > is not the entire purpose defeated? > > > > Is this some sort of Satyaanruta mithunikaraNam ? > > > > Could someone take me further in this to an > > undisputead conclusion? > > > > Hari Om! > > > > Swaminarayan. > > > > nanda chandran <vpcnk@H...> wrote: > > > > > > Anubhava or integral experience of brahman, Atma > > > jnaanam or knowledge > > > of one's own self, is the para vidhya or higher > > > knowledge, which is not > > > different from brahman itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. > > / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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