Guest guest Posted December 13, 2000 Report Share Posted December 13, 2000 Notes on BSB I-I-1-1G sadaashiva samaarambhaa.n sha~Nkaraachaarya madhyamam.h | asmadaachaarya paryantaa.n vande guruparamparaam.h || I prostrate to the lineage of teachers starting from Lord Shiva who is ever auspicious and with Bhagavaan Shankara in the middle and all the way up to my own teacher. vaatsalya ruupa.n triguNairatiitaM aananda saandram amalairnidhaanam.h .| shrii chinmayaananda guro praNiitaM sadaa bhaje.aha.n tava paada pa~Nkajam.h || Who is the very embodiment of motherly affection who is beyond the three guNa-s, who is full with bliss, and who is the very source of purity who is the best among the teachers, Shree Chinmayaananda, to his lotus feet I (sadaa) always prostrate. --------- samanvaya adhyaaya - I spashhTa brahma li~Nga vaakya samanvaya paada- i jij~naasaa adhikaraNa 1 suutra 1: athaato brahma jij~naasaa We have completed analysis of all three words of suutra. However, there is a fourth word which we have to supply to complete sentence. The word is kartavyaa. kartavyaa means should be done. That is inquiry should be done for aatmaj~naanam. Since the word is implied,vyaasaachaarya omits the word for brevity. By using this word, it is implied that there is a vidhi or a rule prescribed in the upanishhads - aatmaa vaa are drashhTavyaH shrotavyaH , mantavyaH , nididhyaasitavyaH - where the ending of each involve - tavyaH, indicative of imperative mood meaning 'should be done'. The three are replaced by one word 'kartavyaH'. kartavyaH should therefore be understood as shrotavyaH , mantavyaH and nididhyaasitavyaH. Hence one should do Brahman inquiry means one should do shravaNam , mananam and nididhyaasanam. Thus the final expanded meaning of the suutra is 'saadhana chatushhTaya sampattyanantaram brahma-j~naanaaya vedaanta shravaNa , manana , nididhyaasanaani kartavyaani - yasmaat brahma-j~naanaat eva mokshaH na tu karmaNaa '. That is 'after acquiring the four-fold qualifications, one should do shravaNa , manana , nididyaasana of Vedanta for the sake of brahma-j~naana because brahma-j~naanam alone gives moksha, not karma'. Now suppose anyone asks Vyaasaachaarya, 'what should I do?' Then Vyaasaachaarya will ask a counter question - 'Have you already acquired saadhana chatushhTaya sampatti - the four-fold qualifications - in this life or in the past life?' - If you already have like Nachiketa, then you can begin the inquiry into the nature of Brahman using Vedanta as a tool. If not, my advice is to gain the saadhana chatushhTaya sampatti by following the karma yoga and/or bhakti yoga. This can be more easily done by following rules laid down in puurvamiimaa.nsa for the karma and upaasanaa. If one has not studied the puurvamiimaa.nsaa , then one can take the help of the priests who have studied puurvamiimaa.nsaa and follow the rituals for karma and upaasanaa. What is required is the saadhana chatushhTaya sampatti, but how it is acquired is of less significance. Following the strict rules laid down in puurvamiimaa.nsaa which involve do's and don'ts one can gain mental discipline required that involve shama , dama , etc. puurvamiimaa.nsaa helps but does not guarantee that one will acquire the saadhana chatushhTaya sampatti. Karma yoga and bhakti yoga are the most efficient methods to acquire the saadhana chatushhTaya sampatti. We hear people complaining that "I have been doing meditation and studying Vedanta for so many years and nothing is happening to me?" - The problem is not with Vedanta but with the lack of appropriate mental framework needed for the inquiry of Brahman. It is like my studying the book on 'Quantum Mechanics' and complain that I have not understood anything from that even though I read it many times. It is not the fault of the book but lack of the prerequisites to study the book. Hence Vyaasaachaarya advises us to go back to our fundamentals and gain the prerequisite qualifications so that when Brahman inquiry is done with that preparatory mind through vedaanta vichaara , one can gain the knowledge of one's own self. Now the next question is, 'does that mean we should all stop Vedantic study now?' Qualified people are very rare and the majority of us are unqualified and therefore there is no use of continuing the study of the 'Notes on Brahmasutra'. We should stop the notes on Brahmasuutra and what we need now is the "Notes on Jaimini sutra" for our study from the next week on. The intention is not that. The idea is we should continue our study of Vedanta while we continue to acquire, increase or intensify our saadhana chatushhTaya sampatti. As the acquisition of saadhana chatushhTaya sampatti intensifies, the study of Vedanta becomes more and more relevant or significant or meaningful to our own understanding of the nature of ourselves or Brahman. Without that, it will become only an academic study. But even then, let it start as an academic study. However, as I acquire slowly the four-fold qualifications, even the so-called academic study will become very relevant for my life. A causal approach becomes a serious approach as the interest develops. A simple example is like a fellow who is trying to connect an electric bulb to a receptacle. If the wires are already 'live', as soon as the bulb makes a proper contact, it glows instantly and the light emanated from the bulb removes the darkness at the very instant the bulb made the contact. Suppose it is not a live wire, since no electricity is passing through the wires. Connecting the bulb will not make much difference in terms of removing the darkness in the room. However that action is not in vain. One can go back and slowly turn the switch on to pass the electric current through the wires. The switch is like the modern 'dimmer switch'. Nothing will happen even after switch is on. One has to turn slowly to higher power to get the light from the bulb. The previously connected bulb, which was not glowing up to now, will start glowing to its full glory, the moment the wires become fully alive. He does not have to reconnect the bulb again. Vedanta knowledge is like fixing the bulb needed to remove the darkness. If the saadhanaa chatushhTaya sampatti is already there, then Vedanta knowledge will help glow the light of knowledge that removes the darkness of the ignorance. If not, gaining the Vedanta knowledge will not be a waste; it helps slowly as we acquire the saadhana chatushhTaya sampatti through karma and bhakti yoga. As our mind becomes purer and purer by karma and bhakti yoga, the light of Vedantic knowledge will intensify to convert j~naanam into vij~naanam , praj~naa into sthirapraj~naa , paroksha j~naanam into aparoksha j~naanam, pratibandhaka j~naanam into apratibandhaka j~naanam. Hence we can continue our Vedantic study and the weekly Notes on Brahmasutra and continue our aashrama dharma also, that is our obligatory duties at various levels including personal, family and society levels. Thus on one side we should refine our qualifications and on the other side shravaNa , manana and nididhyaasana should continue. With this the word analysis of the first suutra is completed. Next will be the conclusion of the first suutra with odds and ends! -- K. Sadananda Code 6323 Naval Research Laboratory Washington D.C. 20375 Voice (202)767-2117 Fax:(202)767-2623 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2000 Report Share Posted December 13, 2000 I understand the following from this Sutra. Please correct me if I am wrong. 1. The root cause of ignorance is lack of enquiry on the part of one possessing sadhana chatushta or lack of capacity for enquiry on one not possessing sadhana chatushta. 2. The word of sages (in particular Sri Ramana Maharshi) is that this enquiry is like a stick that is used for burning a funeral pyre such that it itself is also burnt. This would mean that on enquiry, the enquirer dissappears. 3. Using the definition of (2) in (1), this would imply that Sadahana Chatushta means a capacity for a one pointed flow of awareness towards one Self without reversal. If the above points are true, then a person possessing Sadahana Chatushta need not go through all these innumerable Shlokas. Any one Shloka must be enough to kindle the fire in him to destruction (or Emancipation). Thus the very fact that we have so many Sutras , implies that it is for a person not possessing Sadhana Chatushta. Regards, Anand > We have completed analysis of all three words of > suutra. However, > there is a fourth word which we have to supply to > complete sentence. > The word is kartavyaa. kartavyaa means should be > done. That is > inquiry should be done for aatmaj~naanam. Since the > word is > implied,vyaasaachaarya omits the word for brevity. > By using this > word, it is implied that there is a vidhi or a rule > prescribed in > the upanishhads - aatmaa vaa are drashhTavyaH > shrotavyaH , mantavyaH > , nididhyaasitavyaH - where the ending of each > involve - tavyaH, > indicative of imperative mood meaning 'should be > done'. The three > are replaced by one word 'kartavyaH'. kartavyaH > should therefore be > understood as shrotavyaH , mantavyaH and > nididhyaasitavyaH. Hence > one should do Brahman inquiry means one should do > shravaNam , mananam > and nididhyaasanam. Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2000 Report Share Posted December 13, 2000 advaitin , Shree Anand Natarajan wrote: > > If the above points are true, then a person possessing > Sadahana Chatushta need not go through all these > innumerable Shlokas. Any one Shloka must be enough to > kindle the fire in him to destruction (or > Emancipation). Thus the very fact that we have so many > Sutras , implies that it is for a person not > possessing Sadhana Chatushta. > Namaste. In our radio-receivers for example, we receive one frequency that we tune to,though there is a multitude of them in space. Though one frequency is enough for a person, but, to tune to that, a lot of soul searching needs to be done. Each person, in my humble opinion, has a unique frequency where he/she tunes and it is not known clearly as to where one tunes. Hence, in my opinion, many Shlokas are for the benefit of different individuals who may tune differently to different Shlokas. We may also, most humbly be reminded further from Sri Shakara's verse#66 of Vivekachudamani - "Therefore, strive by all means in your power to be free." With Love, Raghava Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2000 Report Share Posted December 14, 2000 Thanks Anand for your input. Here my understanding. > >1. The root cause of ignorance is lack of enquiry on >the part of one possessing sadhana chatushta or lack >of capacity for enquiry on one not possessing sadhana >chatushta. There are two parts in you statement - let us separate as Case A and Case B for the purpose of this discussion. 1. Let us also examine your statements in sequence. First, ignorance is causeless in the sense it is beginningless. Hence one can not say that the cause of ignorance ... since it implies that it is caused by something which is its cause and ignorance is its effect. - lack of inquiry is due to two fold - 1. lack of understanding the nature of the problem - hence the adhyaasa bhaashyam of Shankara. 2. lack of appropriate or valid means of inquiry - due to lack of right teacher or lack of understanding of the correct import of the scriptures, hence brahmasuutra. When Sadhana chatushhTayam is there, then it is granted that it is Lord's responsibility to provide the above two. A right teacher by definition will direct his student appropriately, since the student has the shradda. Hence for the case A in one, the salvation is almost guaranteed - one way or the other. It was said that - a teacher toTapuri went in search of his student, Shree Ramakrishna Paramahamsa to teach about the advaitic state of the reality. Case B - One can interpret the way you have put it. Actually lack of Sadhna chatushhTayam is due to the pressure of the vasana-s - likes and dislikes. It is like a smoker who knows the smoking is bad but however much he tries hard, it is difficult for him to quit. One can say he did not have the intense mumukshutvam - that it true - the reason he does not have is due to pressure of his vaassana - This is the impurity and to cleanse oneself from these impurities - yoga will help - hence yogo shastra - Bhagavad Geeta - here the study of the scriptures, meditation etc would help to get that purity - It is like what Ramana calls in Upadesha saara - sarala chintanam virala tat param - The mediation in the beginning could be virala chintanam - starts and stops - but slowly it evolves into sarala chintanam like aajya dhaaraya strotasaa samam - like the flow of ghee or river - with sneha bhaava and consistency and continuity. The lack of capacity includes all of the above - lack of appropriate effort, lack of understanding of the problem, lack of commitment, lack of proper teacher and guidance etc. - due to predominance of rajo and tamo guNa-s. >2. The word of sages (in particular Sri Ramana >Maharshi) is that this enquiry is like a stick that is >used for burning a funeral pyre such that it itself is >also burnt. This would mean that on enquiry, the >enquirer dissappears. Absolutely right - the inquiry is by the intellect and one leaps out of intellect to beyond the intellect. There is a beautifual sloka in Atma bodha of Shankara - ..., kR^itvaa j~naanam swayam nasyet, jalam kaTaka renu vat|| they used to use kaTaka nut powder to purify the water for drinking. The nut powder due to its surface tension spreads around and slowly absorbs water and forming a sludge slowly sinks into the bottom taking along with it all the dirt in the water. The water is free from the impurities and kaTaka nut powder as well. Shankara says j~nanam that we are taking about does it purpose and gets annihilated in the process. - It is like using a needle to remove the thorn, both are out of the body in the final analysis - another example - pole vault - pole is left behind once its purpose is over. > >3. Using the definition of (2) in (1), this would >imply that Sadahana Chatushta means a capacity for a >one pointed flow of awareness towards one Self without >reversal. Sadhana chatushhTaya implies the capacity to do what is required. But what is required has to come from appropriate inquiry - According to advaita it is realization of one self with the total self. According dwaita and vishishhTadvaita it means different things. Hence appropriate inquiry is required once sadhana chatushhTaya is there. That is, the nature of the goal or nature of the problem has to be understood correctly and that is not guaranteed by just having Sadhana chatushTayam - Hence the scripture says - tat vij~naanartham guru meva abhigatchchhet samit paaniH shrotriam brahmanishhTam- the advise is for that knowledge approach a teacher with humility who is well versed in the scriptures and who himself is established in the Brahma j~naana. >If the above points are true, then a person possessing >Sadahana Chatushta need not go through all these >innumerable Shlokas. Any one Shloka must be enough to >kindle the fire in him to destruction (or >Emancipation). Thus the very fact that we have so many >Sutras , implies that it is for a person not >possessing Sadhana Chatushta. Sadhana ChatushhTayam only provides purity of the mind and desire for moksha etc. and not knowledge. The notions about oneself - is the conditioning of the mind by prior input or experience - He has to get rid of the prior incorrect notions - it is not the number of slokas nor the amount of time - All the scriptures say soon you will reach that state. Until a conviction about the nature of the goal develops the mind will not be able drop the wrong notions. It took three years for Nisargadatta maharaj after he received the teaching from his teacher - According to Vedanta, when one drops off all the wrong notions it is instantaneous - a teaching of 'you are that' is enough. Here this can be a circular argument -what the last notes say that inquiry along with sadhana should go on till the result is achieved. Inquiry helps in acquiring the sadhana chatushhTayua sampatti since one can get slowly convinced about the nature of the problem and means for it and sadhana chatushhTayam helps in the intensity of inquiry. Hence it is a snow-ball effect - How many slokas etc is irrelevant - as many slokas and as much inquiry to get fully established in that state - Hence Ramana calls as - dR^iDaiva nishhTa - firm establishment in that state of understanding. Slokas are only to facilitate the inquiry - but inquiry is by the mind and intellect not by slokas. Inquiry is more important than number of slokas. Breahmasuutra only provides a samannvaya of various statements of the scriptures so that a coherent picture is provided for the mind to inquire into. Number of suutra-s etc are irrelevant - a firm conviction in the mind and the nature of the problem and means to accomplish that has to be understood. To arrive at that only is the purpose of Brahmasuutra. For those who already have it - Brahmasuutra only provides a confirmation of that. For those who have wrong notions about the goal and the reality, Brahmasuutra helps to set things right. Again it is not a substitute for a teacher - hence suutras as well as other scriptures have to be studied under the guidance of a teacher. Hari Om! Sadananda >Regards, > Anand > -- K. Sadananda Code 6323 Naval Research Laboratory Washington D.C. 20375 Voice (202)767-2117 Fax:(202)767-2623 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2000 Report Share Posted December 15, 2000 HariH Om, > > 1. Let us also examine your statements in sequence. > First, ignorance > is causeless in the sense it is beginningless. > Hence one can not say > that the cause of ignorance ... since it implies > that it is caused by > something which is its cause and ignorance is its > effect. - lack of > inquiry is due to two fold - 1. lack of > understanding the nature of > the problem - hence the adhyaasa bhaashyam of > Shankara. 2. lack of > appropriate or valid means of inquiry - due to lack > of right teacher > or lack of understanding of the correct import of > the scriptures, > hence brahmasuutra. Would it not be better to say Maya or the creative aspect of Brahman is beginingless and not ignorance. Srimad Bhagavad Gita says, "Avyakthadeeni bhuthani Vyaktha Madhyaani bharatha. Avyaktha nidhanayeva. Tatra ka paridevana." " All beings are unmanifest in the beginning, manifest in the middle and unmanifest in the end. Therefore what is the cause for distress?". Therefore the Shakthi that brings about this "manifestation" is beginingless and causeless, but this apparent "manifestation" itself has a beginning and end for that particular "manifestation". > When Sadhana chatushhTayam is > there, then it is > granted that it is Lord's responsibility to provide > the above two. A > right teacher by definition will direct his student > appropriately, > since the student has the shradda. Hence for the > case A in one, the > salvation is almost guaranteed - one way or the > other. It was said > that - a teacher toTapuri went in search of his > student, Shree > Ramakrishna Paramahamsa to teach about the advaitic > state of the > reality. I agree that Satvika Shraddha implies qualification or sadhana chatushTa. Srimad Bhagavat Gita says, "Idham the nathapaskaya nabhakthaya kadachana. na cha ashushrooshave vachyam na cha mam yobhyasooyathe." "This teaching of mine should not be disclosed by you to one devoid of austerities, not devoted, unheedful of spiritual pursuits or to one who is envious of me". This seems to be the qualification needed for the study of the Bhagavat Gita. It is interesting to note that this is told after the Gita and not before it as in the Brahmasutras. Regards, Anand Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2000 Report Share Posted December 15, 2000 >Anand: >Would it not be better to say Maya or the creative >aspect of Brahman is beginingless and not ignorance. >Srimad Bhagavad Gita says, > "Avyakthadeeni bhuthani Vyaktha Madhyaani bharatha. >Avyaktha nidhanayeva. Tatra ka paridevana." Maya and avidya are the same - one from perspective of Iswara and the other from Jiiva anaadyavidya anirvaachya kaaranopaadi ruchyate| - Shankara - Atmabodha Maya: avyakta naamnii paramesha shaktii anaadyavidyaa triguNaatmakaa para kaaryaanumeya shdhiyaiva maaya yaya jagat sarva midam prasuuyate - VivekachuDamani (not sure about the sloka number) It is of the nature of unmanifested and power of the Lord, beginingless ignorance of the nature of three guNa-s - the wise know that it is the cause from which the whole world is projected. The following sloka after this discusses about the nature of Maya - sannapya sanna ubhayaatmikaano .... etc. Ignorance cannot have beginning - if it has, then before it began one has knowledge. one who has knowledge cannot become ignorant - Ignorance although has no beginning has an end when the knowledge occurs. This is not illogical - When did my ignorance of chemistry started - if I ask - it has to be beginningless and I can loose the ignorance of Chemistry when I learn about chemistry. Technically it is called 'praagaabhaava apratibodhakam avidya' - Counter to its previous non-existence - a round about way of saying that it it beginningless. By the by - there is a significant criticism of this avidya concept by Shree Ramanuja in his Shree Bhaashyam which is his commentary on Brahmasuutra. We will take that up when we are through with the Shankara Bhaashyam. > >This seems to be the qualification needed for the >study of the Bhagavat Gita. It is interesting to note >that this is told after the Gita and not before it as >in the Brahmasutras. Remember Geta occurs in the middle of another text - the very first chapter of Geeta prepares the student and when he surrenders to the lord - then only the teaching starts not before. In all other texts anubandha chatushhTayam is always there in the first two slokas - discussing who is qualified to study the text or to whom the text is written. Hari Om Sadananda > >Regards, > Anand > -- K. Sadananda Code 6323 Naval Research Laboratory Washington D.C. 20375 Voice (202)767-2117 Fax:(202)767-2623 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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