The four states

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Well said

 

 

 

sunder hattangadi <sunderh wrote:

Namaste,

 

As pointed out by every illumined individual, the only

requirement for this achievement is TOTAL effacement of the personal

EGO.

 

Regards,

 

s.

 

 

advaitin , BTA SAGAR <btasagar> wrote:

>

> Namaste.Thanks for the clarificaion.The most interesting and

important point is that these nine states are also imaginary

states,which some illumined saints have overcome and attained

immortality.

>

> Regards

>

> Sagar

>

>

 

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[Guest guest]

Commenting on the Turiya avastha many of our members

have given examples and quotes to say that the turiya

avastha is not a fourth state and not different than

any one of the three states of conciousness that the

jiva encounters in its normal existence.

Gaudapada states specifically that in 'Sushupti' the

mind is in a state of 'laya' and is unaware that it is

not absorbing anything,unaware that it is

'Nigriheetaha'.Whereas in its 'turiya' state i.e.its

'Nirvikalpa' state the mind is aware that it is in a

state of Pure Conciousness - Kevala Dhrk.

 

Since all the avasthaas of the Jiva including this

Turiya state have very much to do with Jivatvam and

therefore, in order to realize Its Brahmatvam, the

Jiva logically, has to move further forward towards

Turiyateaeta,I presume? Is this understanding right?

 

Could Sunderji please give the full texts that he has

given to us in his postings regarding this

Turiyaaataeeta ?

 

Hari Om!

 

Swaminarayan.

--- sunder hattangadi <sunderh wrote:

> Namaste,

>

> As pointed out by every illumined individual,

> the only

> requirement for this achievement is TOTAL effacement

> of the personal

> EGO.

>

> Regards,

>

> s.

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Correction:

--- Swaminarayan T <tvswaminarayan wrote:

>

> 'Nirvikalpa' state the mind is aware that it is in a

> state of Pure Conciousness - Kevala Dhrk

^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

Kindly read as above and not as originally posted.

error is regretted.

 

Hari Om!

 

Swaminarayan.

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

--- Swaminarayan T <tvswaminarayan wrote:

> Correction:

> --- Swaminarayan T <tvswaminarayan wrote:

> >

> > 'Nirvikalpa' state the mind is aware that it is in

> a

> > state of Pure Conciousness - Kevala Dhrk

> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>

> Kindly read as above and not as originally posted.

> error is regretted.

>

> Hari Om!

>

> Swaminarayan.

>

>

>

>

> Thousands of Stores. Millions of

> Products.

> /

>

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Namaste Swaminarayanji,

 

I am assuming you are referring to Mandukya Karika III:34 & 35.

 

[The translations are at URL:

 

http://www.philo.demon.co.uk/gaudapad.htm], without Shankara's

commentary.

 

Shankara's commentary on these tallies with Sri Ramana's, as far as I

can understand. [Messages # 7188 & 7211]

 

 

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s.

 

 

 

advaitin , Swaminarayan T <tvswaminarayan>

wrote:

> Commenting on the Turiya avastha many of our members

> have given examples and quotes to say that the turiya

> avastha is not a fourth state and not different than

> any one of the three states of conciousness that the

> jiva encounters in its normal existence.

> Gaudapada states specifically that in 'Sushupti' the

> mind is in a state of 'laya' and is unaware that it is

> not absorbing anything,unaware that it is

> 'Nigriheetaha'.Whereas in its 'turiya' state i.e.its

> 'Nirvikalpa' state the mind is aware that it is in a

> state of Pure Conciousness - Kevala Dhrk.

>

> Since all the avasthaas of the Jiva including this

> Turiya state have very much to do with Jivatvam and

> therefore, in order to realize Its Brahmatvam, the

> Jiva logically, has to move further forward towards

> Turiyateaeta,I presume? Is this understanding right?

>

> Could Sunderji please give the full texts that he has

> given to us in his postings regarding this

> Turiyaaataeeta ?

>

> Hari Om!

>

> Swaminarayan.

> --- sunder hattangadi <sunderh@h...> wrote:

> > Namaste,

> >

> > As pointed out by every illumined individual,

> > the only

> > requirement for this achievement is TOTAL effacement

> > of the personal

> > EGO.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > s.

>

>

>

>

> Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products.

> /