Guest guest Posted January 3, 2001 Report Share Posted January 3, 2001 Dear Ram, I was intrigued by your etymology of kR^ishhNa. Swami Parthasarathy, in his talks on the giitaa, uses the straight meaning of 'dark' or 'black'. He says that he was called this because what is 'light' to us (vyaavahaara) is 'dark' to kR^ishhNa and vice versa. I had accepted this but found yours more persuasive. However, where do you get the 'bliss' bit from? In Monier-Williams, it gives 'knowledge' for Na but also says that 'nirvR^iti' was 'invented for the etymology of kR^ishhNa. Dennis >In every chapter, the first verse always has some special significance >and this first verse of chapter 5 is no exception. The root `krs' >from which the word `Krsna' is derived, means to attract or draw', and >the suffix `na' denotes bliss. The Lord is ever blissful and hence >attracts everybody towards Himself. This is the reason of his being >called `Krsna'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2001 Report Share Posted January 3, 2001 Dear Dennis: The source for this interpretation is the following: 'Srimad Bhagavadgita - Tattvavivecani' by Jayadayal Govindaka, Gita Press, Gorakhpur, India, 1995 (11th Edition) page 238. Let me make some additional comments with respect to looking for the Dictionary meaning for Sanskrit phrases appear in scripture. Dictionary meaning is quite useful sometime and on other times it could be quite misleading. This why the Vedic method of learning prohibits self-learning through books using dictionaries. The ideal method is 'Gurukul - a direct intearction between teacher student.' In modern times this method of learning will be prohibitively expensive and impractical. A good substitute is the 'Satsang' method where exchanges of meanings and commentaries are applied. As you can see, this purpose and goal of this list is fulfilled when a learned member of this list agrees to dedicates his/her time for the welfare of others. No one individually is an expert, but collectively, we can become experts! Thanks for taking your time in posting a valid and useful statement. I have listened to Swami Parthasarathy several times when he visited USA. He was a former disciple of Swami Chinmayanandaji and I have read several of his books including his excellent book, "Vedanta Treatise." warmest regards, Ram Chandran advaitin , "Dennis Waite" <dwaite@d...> wrote: > Dear Ram, > > I was intrigued by your etymology of kR^ishhNa. Swami Parthasarathy, in his > talks on the giitaa, uses the straight meaning of 'dark' or 'black'. He says > that he was called this because what is 'light' to us (vyaavahaara) is > 'dark' to kR^ishhNa and vice versa. I had accepted this but found yours more > persuasive. However, where do you get the 'bliss' bit from? In > Monier-Williams, it gives 'knowledge' for Na but also says that 'nirvR^iti' > was 'invented for the etymology of kR^ishhNa. > > Dennis > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2001 Report Share Posted January 3, 2001 Namaste, Krishna [kR^ishhNaH] is the 57th name of the 1,000 names of Vishnu [vishhNu-sahasra-naama]. Here is Sw. Chinmayanandaji's explanation of Shankaracharya's commentary : " The word Krishna means in Sanskrit 'the dark'. The Truth that is intellectually appreciated, but spiritually not apprehended, is considered as 'veiled behind some darkness'. The root Krish means Existence [sattaa] and Na means Bliss [Ananda]. So says Vyasa in Mahabharata, Udyoga Parva, Ch. 70, verse 5.* Therefore, Krishna means Existence-Bliss [sattaa-aananda]. Thus, the very name divine, 'Krishna', represents the Supreme Paramatman. Or, because of His dark-blue complexion He is called as Krishna. Mahabharata, says, ' As My color is dark-blue, I am called Krishna, O Arjuna.' In Mahabharata, we find Krishna explaining Himself to Arjuna: 'when the earth becomes shelled in by its hard crust I shall turn Myself into an iron-plough-share and shall plough the earth'. Apart from the above meaning Krishna also means the Enchanter of all His devotees [aakarshhaNa]. Truth is One which irresistibly attracts everybody towards Itself. Commentators have interpreted this significance in a more attractive context. They conclude that Krishna means One who sweeps away the sins in the heart of those who meditate upon Him. Truth has got a magnetism to attract to Itself all the ego and ego- centric passions of the individual. In this sense viewed, we need not consider Krishna as a deity of the farm-yard in the agricultural estates. The Lord ploughs the hard stupidities in us and prepares the heart-field, weeding out all the poisonous growth of sin, and cultivates therein pure Bliss which is of the nature of Reality." * kR^ishhirbhuuvaachakaH shabdo Nashcha nirvR^itivaachakaH . vishhNustadbhaavayogaachcha kR^ishhNo bhavati saatvataH .. [niilakaNTha-Tiikaa: kR^ishhiH karshati aatmani sarva.n sa.nharati iti kR^ishhiH sarva-prapa~ncha-baadhaavadhibhuuta.n sattaa- maatram.h . bhuuvaachakaH bhavati iti bhuuH sattaa tadvaachakaH kR^iH iti shabdaH . NaH cha nirvR^itiH sukha.n vishhNuH tat bhaavayoH dhaatu-arthayoH yogaat kR^ishhNaH sanmaatra-aanandaruupaH bhavati iti arthaH ..] Regards, s. advaitin , "Ram Chandran" <rchandran@c...> wrote: > Dear Dennis: > > The source for this interpretation is the following: 'Srimad > Bhagavadgita - Tattvavivecani' by Jayadayal Govindaka, Gita Press, > Gorakhpur, India, 1995 (11th Edition) page 238. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2001 Report Share Posted January 4, 2001 Dear Sunder and Ram, Many thanks for excellent information on etymology - most interesting! I was also interested to hear that Swami Parthasarathy was a former disciple of Swami Chinmayananda (explains why some of their metaphors are so similar!). Regards, Dennis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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