Guest guest Posted January 24, 2001 Report Share Posted January 24, 2001 Notes on BSBI-i-2-1E sadaashiva samaarambhaa.n sha~Nkaraachaarya madhyamam.h | asmadaachaarya paryantaa.n vande guruparamparaam.h || I prostrate to the lineage of teachers starting from Lord Shiva who is ever auspicious and with Bhagavaan Shankara in the middle and all the way up to my own teacher. vaatsalya ruupa.n triguNairatiitaM aananda saandram amalairnidhaanam.h .| shrii chinmayaananda guro praNiitaM sadaa bhaje.aha.n tava paada pa~Nkajam.h || Who is the very embodiment of motherly affection who is beyond the three guNa-s, who is full with bliss, and who is the very source of purity who is the best among the teachers, Shree Chinmayaananda, to his lotus feet I (sadaa) always prostrate. --------- samanvaya adhyaaya - I spashhTa brahma li~Nga vaakya samanvaya paada- i janmaadi adhikaraNam 2 suutra 1 : janmaadyasya yataH | We are discussing Shankara's description of the Iswara in terms of sarva-j~natvam. Shankara in his description uses another adjective- manasaa api achintya rachanaa ruupasya. A scientist can possibly determine how the brain functions, but he cannot recreate such a complex organ. The Lord not only has omniscience - the know-how of how to create but to implement that knowledge or execute that technology. That is, He has enough power and skill to produce such a complex creation. One can see and destroy an ant or bug easily or swallow the whole chicken in few minutes after frying it. But to produce such a complex living entity that can reproduce itself is unimaginable and we can not but admire that great designer and executor. Hence Shankara says He is sarvaj~na and sarvashaktimaan due to sarva kaaraNatvaat - cause for everything. This is the final meaning of the suutra 2. To summarize - the meaning is yasmaat abhinna nimitta upaadaana kaaraNaat, aananda swaruupaat, sarvaj~naat, sarva shaktaat, pratyaksha prapanchasya sR^ishhTi sthiti layaaH sambavanti, tat brahma. Because of which the non-differentiable intelligent and material cause, which is of the form of pure bliss, omniscient, omnipotent cause for creation, sustenance and dissolution of the visible universe - that is Brahman. With this Shankara concludes his commentary on the second suutra. After the conclusion he enters into another discussion by introducing a puurvapaksha or objection from nayyayika-s (nyaaya philosophers). Because of its importance we will discuss that aspect here. The first suutra says that we have to do Brahman inquiry. This can done only after it is established that there is something called Brahman. To establish Brahman, it was said that - lakshaNa pramaaNaabhyaam vasti siddhiH - we need a lakshaNam or a definition and pramaaNa and means of knowing it. The second suutra provides that lakshaNa for Brahman and the third suutra will provide pramaaNa required. In the third suutra it is said that the pramaaNam for Brahman is shaatram - shaatra yonitvaat. Now nayyaayika comes up with a suggestion. He says why cannot one take the second suutra itself as a pramaaNam for Brahman also. According to him, the second suutra defines Brahman or Iswara as jagat kaaraNam, cause for the world. Since jagat kaaraNam is Brahman, conversely jagat is kaaryam of Brahman. That is if Brahman or Iswara is the defined as the cause or kaaraNam, then the world is the effect or kaaryam of Iswara (nayyayika-s use Iswara instead of Brahman). Hence naayayika-s say that the invisible Iswara can be inferred from the visible world just as the invisible fire can be inferred from the visible smoke. Hence nayyayika-s say the pramaaNam for Iswara can be simply anumaanam or inference or logic. This anumaanam is popularly known in tarka shaastra as - kaarya lingaka anumaanam - the inference of invisible kaaraNam or cause from visible kaaryam, or effect. From this nayyayika arrives at a conclusion that shaastra pramaaNam is not required to prove the existence of Iswara. Logic itself can do the job without the need of shaastra. Generally it is understood that if direct perception, pratyaksha, can establish an object, then we do not need logic. Likewise, if pratyaksha cannot but logic can do the job, then we do not need the next one, shabda pramaaNa to establish the object. Hence Nayyaayika-s argue that there is no need for shaastra pramaaNa to establish Iswara. Advaitins as well as other vedantins would not agree for that. Iswara cannot be established by pure logic without the help of shaastram. There is a radical difference between tarkika and the vedantin. For tarkika the logic is the primary means of knowledge with regard to Iswara and shaastra is only of secondary importance while for Vedantin it is the other way around (see Notes I for reference). We will analyze this in detail since the relative roles of shaastra pramaaNa versus anumaana pramaaNa will be established from the point of two different philosophies, aastika-s vs. naastika-s. Nayyayika-s argue that we do not need shaastra to prove the existence of the Iswara. Just as when we see a person, even though we do not know any thing about his parents, we know that he must have parents. The very presence of an effect presupposes the existence of the cause. Hence if there is a product there must be a producer whose existence I can infer. Since the world or jagat is seen, there must be a creator, Iswara. Thus by inference or anumaana, I can know the existence of Iswara without the need of shaastra-s. Hence for establishing Iswara or Brahman, anumaanam can serve as pramaaNam and shaastram is not required - this is nayyaayika-s argument. Shankara says it is not so. The second suutra does not provide anumaana pramaaNam for brahma siddhi or Iswara sidhhi. Shankra gives a simple reason for this, but the subcommentators provide additional reasons. The argument is as follows. Vyasacharya does not propound a new philosophy by using his reasoning power. This is in contrast to many of darshanams (see Ch.I-for details) where the basis of their new philosophy is the reasoning or anumaana pramaaNa. These include sankhya, yoga, nyaaya, vaisheshhika, etc. all of which propound new philosophies primarily based on tarka or anumaanam; and Shankara calls all of them together as taarkika-s. They accept the sruthi pramaaNam only as subservient to anumaaNa. Uniqueness of Brahmasuutra is Vyasacharya does not establish the philosophy through reasoning. He uses reasoning not to propound a new philosophy but only to derive a cogent systematic philosophy of the Veda-s. Hence every suutra has got one or many Vedanta vaakyam-s or vishhaya vaakyam-s as its basis. If one claims that the second suutra establishes Iswara by anumaana pramaaNa then the very purpose of Brahasuutra is defeated. Hence Shankara uses a beautiful line which is often quoted and which was provided in Ch. I - vedaanta vaakya kusuma grathanaarthatvaat suutraanaam - every suutra is providing an anumaaNam or reasoning alright but this reasoning is not an independent anumaanam. It is used only to bring out the Vedantic teaching in cogent form. It is like a thread to create a necklace or garland of the flowers of Vedanta Vaakyam-s. Here the garland is the Vedanta darshanam and the flowers are the veda vaakyam-s. The tarka-thread is only hiding behind the flowers as subservient factor and has no independent utility other than tying the flowers together to form a beautiful garland of cogent vedatic philosophy. Hence the second suutra does not provide an independent anumaana pramaaNa but it is there to analyze the Vedanta vaakyam quoted before: "etova imaani bhuutaani jaayante ...." to provide lakshaNa suutra but not pramaaNa suutra. - This is the simpler answer Shankar gives. The subcommentators provide further arguments. It is clear from their puurvapaksha, nayyaayika-s believe that Iswara can be logically established. Vedantins vehemently disagree with nayyayika-s in this aspect. Vedantins strongly believe that Iswara or Brahman is revealed through shaastra alone. For Vedantins, Iswara that is revealed through shaastra can be assimilated through logic. In the discussions that follow we will see that nayaayika-s use aanumaana pramaaNam to establish Iswara and Vedantins take the position like that of DMK politicians in Madras to show that their logic is defective. Now nayyayika-s arguments: They deduce Iswara through three anumaanam-s or logical statements. (See Ch. II for discussion of anumaana pramaaNa.) 1. kshityankuradhikam (or jagat) sakartR^ikam, kaaryatvaat, ghatavat. - That is, the world must have a creator, because it is an effect or product like a pot. The vyaapti vaakyam for this is - yad yad kaaryam tad tad sakartR^ikam, that is, whatever is product, it must have been created (by a creator). From this anumaanam, they deduce first that there is a creator. 2. The second anumaanam vaakyam is, jagat kartaa IswaraH, jiiva bhinnatvesati chetanatvaat, vyatirekena kulaalavat. In this anumaanam nayyayika establishes that the creator must be Iswara alone, because no jiiva can create this world and since the creator has to be an intelligent or conscious being. Since there are only three entities, jiiva, jagat and Iswara, conscious intelligent being other than jiiva is only Iswara, and hence the creator of this world has to be Iswara. This is called paarisheshha nyaaya, the logic by elimination and residue. It is unlike a pot-maker, since like example cannot be given as it is one of a kind. The vyaapti vaakyam is yat jiivabhinnatvesati chetanam tat IswaraH - whatever is conscious being other than jiiva that must be IswaraH. 3. The third anumaana vaakyam is - IswaraH sarvaj~naH sarvakartR^itvaat vyatirekena kulaalavat - that is IswaraH is omniscient since he is a creator of everything unlike alpaj~na kulaalaH or our good old pot maker who has knowledge of only how to make a pot. The vyaapti vaakyam is yatra sarva kartR^itvam tatra sarvaj~natvam api bhavati. This is called lakshaNa lingaka anumaanam. Thus nayyayika logically establishes sarvaj~na IswaraH, omniscient Lord. Therefore he argues that existence of Iswara can be established logically and we do not need Veda-s to do, that. A modern day rational intellect is more happy with a nayyayika than a Vedantin who relays on shaastra which requires a faith. Vedantin claims all these anumaana vaakyam-s or logical statements are defective. Let us examine the first anumaanam - jagat sakartR^ikam, karyatvaat, ghatavat - the world is a creator because it is a product, like a pot. For this nayyayika uses a vyaapti j~naanam - yad yad kaaryam sakartR^ikam, wherever there is product there must be a creator - example is like a pot. Every anumaana vaakyam must require a vyaapti and this vyaapti vaakyam (statement expressing concomitant relationship between hetu and saadhya - see Ch. II) is derived from pratyaksha pramaaNa only. anumaanam requires vyaapti j~naanam and vyaapti j~naanam is established by pratyaksha pramaaNam alone. If vyaapti j~naanam is established by another anumaanam then that second anumaanam requires another vyaapti and this leads to infinite regress problem. It cannot be by shaastram either, since nayyaayika-s have already rejected shaastra pramaaNam. Like the example we gave in Ch. II - yatra yatra dhuumaH tatra tatra agniH - this vyaapti j~naanam is arrived only by pratyaksha pramaaNam only - or by direct observation. vyaapti arrived by observation is valid only if it holds good in all the cases. Hence wherever there is a smoke there is a fire is a valid vyaapti but the converse wherever there is fire there is smoke is not a valid vyaapti, since it does not hold good all the time. Now Vedantin argues - if you say where there is product there is a creator - this is proved by pratyaksha only if the products are man-made. How about natural products - there the creator for these products are not perceptually proved. Therefore the defect in the first anumaana is vyaapti asidhiH since there is no pratyaksha or direct observation of the creation of the universe by IshwaraH. Let us examine the second anumaana - jagat kartaa IswaraH, jiiva bhinnatvesati chetanatvaat, vyatirekena kulaalavat - Iswara is the creator of jagat, since He is a conscious entity different from jiiva. For this vyaapti j~naanam involves establishing that wherever there is a conscious being other than jiiva is involved, it must be IshwaraH. That means the vyaapti statement involves a presupposition of the existence of Ishwara who is other than jiiva. But vyaapti j~naanam must be gathered by pratyaksha pramaaNam only or by direct perception since nayyayika has already discarded shaashtra pramaaNam. But through perception we cannot talk about a conscious being other than jiiva. Hence the second anumaanam is also defective since vyaapti vaakyam cannot be established by pratyaksha. Now the third anumaana: IswaraH sarvaj~naH sarvakartR^itvaat vyatirekena kulaalavat - Iswara is omniscient since He is the creator of everything. Now to negate this anumaana we need to examine some 'axioms' that nayyayika-s have assumed in developing their philosophy. Nayyayika-s say that every knowledge is born out of mind. - yat j~naanam tat manojanyam - This axiomatic statement is made since they depend heavily on the perceptions and inferences for their philosophy. There may not be any problem with this statement but in a different place they make another statement which appears to be unrelated to this - IswaraH asshariiraH - that is Ishwara does not have body- that statement includes sthuula suuksham kaaraNa shariiraani - gross, subtle and causal bodies - which obviously includes the mind which is part of subtle body. The reason they took mind away from Iswara is of their presumption that wherever there is mind there is samsaara - since Ishwara cannot have samsaara, He is made devoid of mind. Since according to nayyayikaas own statements - that the mind is required for j~naanam and Iswara does not have mind - hence it follows that Iswara being mind-less cannot have any knowledge leave alone the sarvaj~natvam. This defect is called - swa,abhyupagama virodhaH - defect involving self-contradiction or contradicting ones own statements. Thus Vedantin proves that nayyayika-s third anumaanam is also defective. (For the record, these arguments are from the commentary called PuurNaanandiiyam by PuurNaananda Saraswati which itself is a comentary on Bhaashya Ratnaprabha by Govindaananda Saraswati which is in turn a comentary on Shankara Bhaashyam). Hence anumaanam which is based on pratyaksha cannot be a pramaaNa for establishing Ishwara, who is beyond the human perception and hence beyond inference. Iswara established by anumaanam can be negated by anumaanam. Hence shaastra alone is the valid pramaaNa for that which is beyond the perceptual knowledge. If vedantin uses logic it is blessed by shaastram - shruti sammata tarkena Iswara sidhhiH, na tu kevala tarkena or sushhka tarkena Iswara sidhhiH. That is logic supported by the shaashtra is only valid for entities that cannot be established by direct perception. The logic supported by direct perceptions are invalid to establish Iswara since He is beyond direct perception. One more point Shankara makes in his bhaashyam. The discussion does not mean that tarka is totally useless in the inquiry. Shankara emphasizes that tarka is important when properly used with the support of Shaastra. - shrotavyaH, mantavyaH, nidhidhyaasitavyaH - the word manthavyaH indicates tarka is imporant for understanding Vedanta. In fact the whole Brahmasuutra is called nyaaya prasthaanam - logical analysis of upanishhad-s. Hence the use of tarka as subservient in understanding Vedanta. Shankara gives the reason why tarka is important in Vedanta. He contrasts the karma kaandam and j~nanakaandam - in karma kaanDa tarka has got a limited role. There procedures of rituals is more important - what should be done rather than why should it be done - There the knowledge of a ritual does not produce the results - performance of the ritual does. The benefit is the result of accomplishment of a ritual in time or time-bound. Hence Shankara's language - karmakaandasya saadhyavishhayatvaat karma pradhaanam, j~naanam apradhaanam - since it deals with something to be produced in future doing is important and knowing has only an indirect role. Suppose if moksha is something to be produced in future then like karma kaanDa, procedure is important than knowledge - hence people say I have studied Vedanta and now I have to practice or do more practice - some meditation or something else. Shankara says this is the common misconception. Vedanta does not deal with a future event - the result of a process or procedure. We are not learning any procedure, any technique or method of meditation through Vedanta or implement something after Vedantic study. It is dealing with the fact of moksha - which is an accomplished fact! - which one has to understand. The whole Vedantic saadhana is only a process of understanding and there is nothing to implement after understanding. With the understanding the end is accomplished. Whatever the obstruction in understanding need to be eliminated. One of the obstruction is the intellect itself in the form of samshayaH or doubt - Hence tarka or mananam is very important - it is not an independent tarka but to remove the intellectual obstacles created in assimilating the Vedantic teaching. Hence tarka serves in the understanding the Vedantic teaching and in assimilating that teaching as ones own. There is nothing to do after understanding since the very understanding involves - I am akarthaa and abhoktaa. - I have nothing to do as I am ever liberated. - Hence Shankara says shruti is imporant, yukti is important and finally anubhava, which involves assimilating the knowledge as ones own, is important. Anubhava is important only because our samsaara is present only in the form of anubhava - I am limited, I am small, the helplessness- the feeling of inadequacy, the misery due to that feeling, the doubt about oneself, the doubt about the teaching of Vedanta, etc. The moksha is freedom from these sensations - the puurnatvam, the samatvam - it is not anubhava or experience in the form of mystic experience that comes and goes, but anubhava in the form of full freedom from all limitations. The understanding is complete when the samsaara bhaavana or vipariita bhaavana goes away- Hence the benefit of this understanding is HERE and NOW - That I am eternally free and never was bound for any process of un-bounding required. Hence inquiry is to be done using shaastra sammata tarka. With this Shankara's commentary on the second suutra is over. Next the conclusion part. Notes on Brahmasuutra-s are now stored in a folder and can be accessed at advaitin/Notes+on+Brahmasuutra/ for personal study. 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Guest guest Posted January 24, 2001 Report Share Posted January 24, 2001 Sign of old-age is showing up! The notes just posted should be Notes BSB-I-i-2-1D rather 1E. Please make corrections to the the title. Hari Om! Sadananda -- K. Sadananda Code 6323 Naval Research Laboratory Washington D.C. 20375 Voice (202)767-2117 Fax:(202)767-2623 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2001 Report Share Posted January 24, 2001 Namaste, NO!! I think you danced too much around the stage and got exhausted, and posted it without mailing the draft to Dennis and myself!! Remember you are old [puraaNaH] but ever new!! Regards, s. advaitin , "K. Sadananda" <sada@a...> wrote: > Sign of old-age is showing up! The notes just posted should be Notes > BSB-I-i-2-1D rather 1E. Please make corrections to the the title. > > Hari Om! > Sadananda > -- > K. Sadananda > Code 6323 > Naval Research Laboratory > Washington D.C. 20375 > Voice (202)767-2117 > Fax:(202)767-2623 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2001 Report Share Posted January 24, 2001 >Namaste, > > NO!! I think you danced too much around the stage and got >exhausted, and posted it without mailing the draft to Dennis and >myself!! Remember you are old [puraaNaH] but ever new!! > >Regards, > >s. Actually dancing didn't do it. That is the part of life's drama and we will stop dancing when the life leaves us. One can say He is dancing through the equipments and why bother about it. That is true too. Dennis says no you have no free will to dance, it has been determined as the vector sum under the circumstances. That is also true too. Murthy gaaru says all dancing is all due to His grace - I am sure he would include the resulting exhaustion is also part of His grace - of course that is true since without his grace nothing can dance. But the real truth transcends all. And that is, .......... The fact of the matter is I had originally had split notes into shorter versions and some how compressed to make each little larger and in the process the letter designation got mixed up. Sunder it looks like you are also aging with me being ageless! I did send the draft and got back from you the corrected one. Looks like Dennis has already provided the new words. Does the glossary file also go into the Brahmasuutra folder? Hari Om! Sadananda -- K. Sadananda Code 6323 Naval Research Laboratory Washington D.C. 20375 Voice (202)767-2117 Fax:(202)767-2623 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2001 Report Share Posted January 24, 2001 advaitin , "K. Sadananda" <sada@a...> wrote: But the real truth transcends all. And that is, .......... > > > Sunder it looks like you are also aging with me being ageless! I did > send the draft and got back from you the corrected one. Looks like > Dennis has already provided the new words. > > Does the glossary file also go into the Brahmasuutra folder? Namaste Sadaji, That's for sure! The draft was picked up from the posting, and it did not arrive by e-mail as usual! Yes, Dennis has sent me the new word-list. I was waiting for the completion of this round of postings to upload the glossary to the folder. If you would like it done sooner, I shall proceed. Regards, s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2001 Report Share Posted January 24, 2001 > >Yes, Dennis has sent me the new word-list. > >I was waiting for the completion of this round of postings to upload >the glossary to the folder. If you would like it done sooner, I shall >proceed. > >Regards, > >s. Sunder there is no hurry. Take your sweet time. -Sada -- K. Sadananda Code 6323 Naval Research Laboratory Washington D.C. 20375 Voice (202)767-2117 Fax:(202)767-2623 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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