Guest guest Posted February 13, 2001 Report Share Posted February 13, 2001 Hello EveryBody I am a new member to the list and student of Ved. While studying I came across some questions put up by some of other group members. The following questions were answered to my best of abilities. Just give a thought to it. To Beef or Not to Beef... Q1. Why should a Hindu not eat beef? Of course, Hindus see 33 crore Gods in it. For that matter, they see God in all entities of the world. Weren't it we who said, "Eeshavasya midam sarvam..."? ) To go to the details of it we may have to go into the Vedic Vishwa. Basically vedas refer "Gou" as animal and as well as "Indriya"(senses). The word "Gou" over the period of time became "Cow" in English(Apabhransh). In Vedic peroid some yajnas were practiced 1)AshwaMedh 2)GouMedh 3) AjaMedh The real meaning of each of these word Vedic people knew. Over the period they(words) lost meanings and people considered Ashwamedh as to sacrifice Ashwa(Ghoda), GouMedh as to sacrifice Gou(Gaya) and AjaMedh as to sacrifice Aja(Bakara). This wrong interpretations of these words resulted in heavy sacrifices of Gou and Aja(Bakara). Gou was and is social animal with lots of benifits. People knew it and so to stop unnecessary killings of animal like Gou it was made forbidden in KaliYuga. 'Agnihotram gavalambam sanyasam palpaitrukam| Deverachha sutoptathikaloupanchavivarjayet'| Arthat: 'Kaliyug main panch(5) karma karane ke liye nishedh hain agnihotra,Gavalamban(GouMedh),Sanyas,palapaitruk yane mans pinda dekar shradha karana aur devar se santati karava lena' That is how people in KaliYuga stopped GouMedh and Hindus who follow Vedic principle do not eat beef(Gou). Actually in Vedic period Gou means Indriya most of the times. How otherwise you justify a word GouSwami? Does that mean Nandi ya Bail ya Hela ya Reda? definitely not. We mean a Rishi or a saintly person who has conquered his senses.So when Gou means Indriaya Vedic people used to perform GouMedh that is IndriyaMedh that is IndriaNighriya. They used to direct Indria rather than guided by them. Over the period this became difficult to implement and people considered it to be Gaya or Beef. AshwaMedh also had similar problems. Ashwa is A+Shwa 'A' means absence and 'Shwa' means breathing. So where Absence of Berathing is achieved and only Shusmuna nadi works that state is called as Ashwa. So we have to kill that avasta. Interestingly,only Kshatriyas were allowed to perform AshwaMedh. Brahamans were not allowed. Bramhan means Ashwa avasta. A Kshatriya is not supposed to go to Ashwa avastha because he must look after his subjets. That is why AshwaMedh was performed by Prabhu RamChandra and Yudhistir. It is difficult to understand that Prabhu Ramchandra can kill a innocent Ghoda for his peace of mind(ManahaShanti).It was to remember that being Kshtriya they have to have Shawas(Nitya Karma). This was also misinterpreted in the post vedic kala and people started killings Ghoda. AjaMedh is A+ja(That has not taken birth) so AjaMedh means kill that has not taken bitrh! Was that Abortion? Aja means Bramhavasta so not to indulge in Bramahavsta is what AjaMedh means. Aja avastha means Brhama avastha ko samasaman kar jo avastha utpana ho ti hain use Sama+Aja Samaj kahate hain. So AjaMedh means Samaj ka uddhar. So Vedic people were AshawaMedhi(Jagrut),GouMedhi(IndriyaNighra),and AjaMedhi(Samajsheel). Over the period people took altogeter diffrent and wrong interpretations and hence question like Beef eating comes up. So when entire world was practicising Vedic sanskruti some of them took GouMedh as Gou killins(Chirstains,Muslims), some of them took it as GouSwami,GouWardhan,GouPal(Hindu),Some of them took as Strong Indria Nirodh (Jain). By no means Vedas allowed animal scarifiecs. So it is not only Gou but any animal sacrifices are not allowed. Q2:Is vegetarianism a hindu concept.? As far as my interpretations go Vegetarianism and Non-Vegetarianism are not Hindu(Vedic) concept.It is there that animal sacrifices were not allowed but in the Vedic litrature it is not mentioned that Mansahar(Non-Veg) is not allowed. There was actually no problem with the animal eatings till Ramayan and MahaBharat. There are sevral instances of Ram either eating or stop eating Mansahar. It may sound contradictory to what we said above but let me explain. We all know Four Vernas.It was a best example of Mankind Classification. A person would be classified as to be belonging to one of the Verna based on the attributes(Guna) and not the family. Kshatriya is Kshatrap ya Warman. This means that anyone who is maintaining his physical strength to reduce mind detractors. Naturally, that person has to indulge in wordly activities. He has to reduce(Warman) chanchal vrutii so it is obvious for eating habits as well. There is no good reason to belive that it was prohibited in the vedic society to have Mansahar. The fourth question what you have put itself is an answer to the question that Veg & Non-Veg is not Hindu (Vedic) Concept. Q3: Veg better than Non-Veg? Vedic society did not bother about this. Actually, this better & bad came because of Buddhism and Jainism in post Vedic period. Buddha preached extreme non-voilence. This question is discussed because of Buddhas impact in society. Q4: Why the bramhins(the priest class) are the only ones who are shunned from non-vegetarianism while others are allowed.?. Is it that hindusim preaches non violence vegeterianism on one hand and expects only one section of it to follow.?. How can you say then hindu values can be universally applied. Here again querist mis-interpreted Brahmins as Priest Class. Who is Brahaman? "Braham Janati Brahaman" who knows Brahama(Ultimate Knowledge) is Brahaman. Ved describe Brahaman as "Sharman" Sharam+Ann .Sharam means Teer (Arrow) and Ann means vibration(Spandan). "Jo Sadhak appne Sharir Kshtra dwara sadhana prayas kar tatvaruup avastha ko cheerate huai jata hain aur tatva ko prapta karta hain use Sharman kahatain hain". In-short Brahman is in tandem with Brahma(Supreme Knowledge). That person who is tandem with Brahama must be GouSwami(Whose all Indriyas are under his control) so no Mansahar or Madira. Now the last question Q5:How can you say then hindu values can be universally applied. What are Hindu values? What we call Hindu is Vedic person;Who belives in Vedas(or their derivations) is today called as Hindu courtesy Muslims. What is Vedic Sanskruti? Ved means gyan or Knowledge and Vedic means Gyani. So Vedic Sanskruti is culture of Gyanis. There is no concept of religion in Vedic time. So Shashtra and Vigyan are two pilliers of Vedic Vishwa. One who wants to be Vedic will be classified as Brahaman,Kshatria,Vysha,Shrudra. These are four stages of the student of vedic society depending attributes(Guna) one has.Ultimate state and hence desirable is the Brahaman state the meaning of which we see earlier. So making entire world Brahaman is the basic principle of Vedas. This is what is the Vedic values that is Hindu Values. Dont you read Universality in it? No other Dharma rests on such a great principle. We Hindus are supposed to make entire world Brahama- maya. So be very clear about our roots and present true picture of Vedic (Hindu) society and teachings in the symposium. Remember you should to tell what Anand we get in Brahma!!! I talk well dont write well. So at times you may find discontinuty. Speed of Brain and speed of Tounge can be syncronized but speed of Brain and Hand very difficult!!! Still I feel I made the point. Best of Lucks. Thanks a Lot for your Time and Space. Prabodh Vekhande Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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