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sunderh [sunderh]

Monday, February 19, 2001 3:41 PM

advaitin

Re: Reality

 

 

Namaste,

 

This raises another question for me. Is not the dream state

more akin to a mirage than to a waking state? In a mirage, one is

'awake' but does not know it is a mirage till one is 'really awake'!

 

In any case, comparing two unreal entities will remain a

futile exercise, till one who is AWAKE awakens you!! So even

vyavahaarika truth will remain a misnomer.

 

Regards,

 

s.

 

In the "dream state" one may be awake and fully know that it is a dream!

Indeed one can have a high degree of viveka in the dream state. There can be

no absolute rules on this. Similarly, in visionary experiences, a person is

awake and knows it to be a visionary experience.

 

Advaita Vedanta puts the emphasis on the Reality of the Seer and not the

nature of the experience. The changing states of "dreaming" and "waking"

are analyzed to discover the unchanging Subject underlying all states Whose

nature is that of Pure Consciousness.

 

Love

Harsha

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Namaste,

 

I agree with you, Harshaji. I was under the impression that

although no 'rules' apply, a fairly advanced yogi only could stay

'awake' in a dream.[ from what I read in Sri Aurobindo's writings].

 

Regards,

 

s.

 

 

 

advaitin, "Harsha" <harsha-hkl@h...> wrote:

>

> sunderh [sunderh]

> Monday, February 19, 2001 3:41 PM

> advaitin

> Re: Reality

>

>

> Namaste,

>

> This raises another question for me. Is not the dream state

> more akin to a mirage than to a waking state? In a mirage, one is

> 'awake' but does not know it is a mirage till one is 'really awake'!

>

> In any case, comparing two unreal entities will remain a

> futile exercise, till one who is AWAKE awakens you!! So even

> vyavahaarika truth will remain a misnomer.

>

> Regards,

>

> s.

>

> In the "dream state" one may be awake and fully know that it is a

dream!

> Indeed one can have a high degree of viveka in the dream state.

There can be

> no absolute rules on this. Similarly, in visionary experiences, a

person is

> awake and knows it to be a visionary experience.

>

> Advaita Vedanta puts the emphasis on the Reality of the Seer and not the

> nature of the experience. The changing states of "dreaming" and "waking"

> are analyzed to discover the unchanging Subject underlying all

states Whose

> nature is that of Pure Consciousness.

>

> Love

> Harsha

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sunderh [sunderh]

Monday, February 19, 2001 5:38 PM

advaitin

Re: Sunderji/ Reality

 

 

Namaste,

 

I agree with you, Harshaji. I was under the impression that

although no 'rules' apply, a fairly advanced yogi only could stay

'awake' in a dream.[ from what I read in Sri Aurobindo's writings].

 

Regards,

 

s.

_

Ramana Maharshi used to say that if you practice remaining awake (self

aware) in the waking state, you will find that the same current will be

gradually carried into the dreaming state.

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