Guest guest Posted March 19, 2001 Report Share Posted March 19, 2001 Namaste, The dialogue of Ajatashatru and Gargya on dreams is in Brihadaranyaka II:i:18, with an extensive commentary by Shankara. Even more extensive is Bri. upanishad and Shankara Bhashya in IV:iii:1-34 [dialogue betwen Janak & Yajnavalkya]. It would be difficult to draw any conclusions on these esoteric subjects without a brahmanishhTha guru. Books on Yoga describe various categories of dreams: Prophetic; allegorical; caused by sorcery; retrospective; mixed; fanciful. There is a book called 'svapna-chintaamaNi', detailing the significance of the dreamed objects. A spiritual can get appropriate directions even in dreams. Regards, s. advaitin, Raghavarao Kaluri <raghavakaluri> wrote: > --- Anand Natarajan <harihara.geo> wrote: > > > > 1. When people asked Sri Ramana Maharshi whether a > > Jnani has dreams, his answer was yes, but the jnani > > knows that it is a dream just like he knows his > > waking > > state is also a dream. The jnani remains as Himself > > unconcerned about the three states that pass on. > By as you like, it means the same as 'manisfested form > of desires, manifested randomly without corelation > between two events'. I think it is only semantics, > but, the intent of quote is same as what you stated. > > With Love, > Raghava Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2001 Report Share Posted March 20, 2001 Hari Om! I apologize for my ignorance. But what difference does it make to a seeker whether or not Jnani dreams?? Atleast he is a Jnani when he wakes up! And how does knowing this particular info help or hasten ones spiritual growth? This mind is not able to figure out. This is not meant to criticise this topic, but my sincere attempt to fathom its utility. Thanks -Srinivas _______________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2001 Report Share Posted March 21, 2001 Ramana Maharshi once said that just as an Elephant wakes up upon seeing a Lion in his dream, the aspirant wakes up seeing the "Guru" in the dream. What is a "Jnani" or a "Guru" but another image and construct in the dream. To ask the question whether "a Jnani" dreams or not in a dream may or may not be useful! Ultimately all questions about "others dreaming or awake" come back to you, your own imagination. How can it be otherwise? The Guru is no doubt the most beautiful part of the dream. One is fortunate indeed even if one can catches the sight of the feet of the Guru in a dream. The Guru image points to the Self and then disappears revealing the Self to be the All. Harsha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2001 Report Share Posted March 21, 2001 Namaste All, As I understand it, a jnani sees and experiences the same as an ajnani, except he is not attached and realises it is all illusion. Images on a screen. He sees as saguna brahman, when the body drops he is nirguna brahman and sees nothing, for there never was anybody or anything to see.......Tony. advaitin, Anand Natarajan <harihara.geo> wrote: > > --- raghavakaluri wrote: > > Part-1: > > In Brihad-Aranyaka Upanishad, Ajatasatru explains to > > Gargya, > > "When the soul is in the land of dreams, then all > > the worlds belong > > to the soul. A person can be great or live in > > conditions high or low. > > And even as a great king of this earth takes his > > attendants with him > > and goes about his dominions wherever he desires, so > > the soul of man > > takes the powers of life with him and wanders in the > > land of dreams > > according to his desires". > > > > > 1. When people asked Sri Ramana Maharshi whether a > Jnani has dreams, his answer was yes, but the jnani > knows that it is a dream just like he knows his waking > state is also a dream. The jnani remains as Himself > unconcerned about the three states that pass on. > > 2. I am a bit mystified about your Brihad-Aranyaka > Upanishad quotation regarding two points, > a) If he roams about in a land of dreams seeking > his desires , then he is not a Jnani. > b) The quote seems to imply that you do as you like > in dreams which is not the case with a regular person. > You do not in general have control over a dream. > Therefore this neither refers to a Jnani nor a > Sadhaka. > How do you explain this quote ? > > Anand > > > > > > Get email at your own domain with Mail. > http://personal.mail./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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