The Total Picture

[Guest guest]

>From :

The Elegant Universe, by Brian Greene

in Frontier Perspectives

from the Center for Frontier Sciences

 

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The graviton, the smallest bundle of gravitational force, is one particular

pattern of string vibration. And just as an electromagnetic field such as

visible light is composed of an enormous number of photons, a gravitational

field is composed of an enormous number of gravitons - that is, an enormous

number of strings executing the graviton vibrational pattern. Gravitational

fields, in turn, are encoded in the warping of the spacetime fabric, and hence

we are led to identify the fabric of spacetime itself with a colossal number of

strings all undergoing the same, orderly, graviton pattern of vibration. In the

language of the field, such an enormous, organized array of similarly vibrating

strings is known as 'coherent state' of strings. It's a rather poetic image -

the strings of string theory as the threads of the spacetime fabric - but we

should note that it's rigorous meaning has yet to be worked out completely.

 

Nevertheless, describing the spacetime fabric in this sting-stitched form does

lead us to contemplate the following question. An ordinary piece of fabric is

the end product of someone having carefully woven together individual threads,

the raw material of common textiles. Similarly, we can ask ourselves whether

there is a raw precursor to the fabric of spacetime.

 

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S:

 

Indeed.

 

As I keep asking, at the Big Bang, what exploded, or who banged whom?<g>

 

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Notice that it is somewhat inaccurate to picture this state as a jumbled mass

of individual vibrating strings that have yet to stitch themselves together into

an ordered whole because, in our usual way of thinking, this presupposes a

notion of both space and time - the space in which a string vibrates and the

progression of time that allows us to follow its changes in shape from one

moment to the next.

 

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S:

 

Indeed.

 

Space, time are conceptual constructs needed to cognise manifestation and hence

simultaneoulsy appear to be, along with phenomenality.There is no aprior

space-time construct in which something came to be manifested.

 

The dance is a dance, because a dancer is dancing.The dancer is a dancer,

because a dance is unfolding.

 

Since, time as a concept appears to come to be so that "duration" comes to be

and hence phenomenality can be cognised through "change", what is before "time",

is still a question framed within the concept of "time".

 

Hence the question itself is meaningless and if the illusion of "time" is

apperceived, what can be said, whether anything is happening, has happened, OR

that nothing has happened.

 

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But in the raw state, before the strings that make up the cosmic fabric engage

in the orderly, coherent vibrational dance we are discussing, there is *no

realization of space or time*. Even our language is too coarse to handle these

ideas, for, in fact, there is even no notion of *before*.

 

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S:

 

Exactly what I am saying.

 

The whole connotation of "before" is meaningless.

 

Thus "after" is as much meaningless.

 

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In a sense, it's as if individual strings are "shards" of space and time, and

only when they appropriately undergo sympathetic vibrations do the conventional

notions of space and time emerge.

 

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S:

 

To persistent questioning by amateur seekers, the Master coins a term

Consciousness-at-rest, Consciousness-in-repose, Awareness-not- aware- of itself,

Noumenon, "That" .

 

And further states that phenomenality, Consciousness-in-movement, is the dream

of "That", arising, when the notion of "I AM (the Big Bang) arises in "That".

 

Sweet lollies, to assuage the seeker, the Master knowing, that all prattlings,

by anybody (including himself/herself), at anytime, to anybody, ever, can only

be a concept.

 

Within the conceptual framework of phenomenality, in which the Master-disciple

dialogue (relationship) is unfolding, what else can get created, but concepts.

 

Some concepts dig deep, like a thorn, some only superficially scratch the

surface..

 

 

Daaaa Daaaa Deee Duuuum

 

 

Cheers

 

 

Sandeep

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

advaitin, "Sandeep Chatterjee" <sandeepc@b...> wrote:

> From :

> S:

>

> To persistent questioning by amateur seekers, the Master coins a

term Consciousness-at-rest, Consciousness-in-repose, Awareness-not-

aware- of itself, Noumenon, "That" .

>

> And further states that phenomenality, Consciousness-in-movement, is

the dream of "That", arising, when the notion of "I AM (the Big Bang)

arises in "That".

>

> Sweet lollies, to assuage the seeker, the Master knowing, that all

prattlings, by anybody (including himself/herself), at anytime, to

anybody, ever, can only be a concept.

 

Or Beauty Itself