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V.M.Sundaram wrote :

[...] "When the body dies, the jivaatama , along with ego , is reborn in

another body. This repetitive cycle of birth and death continues until the

jivaatama gets out of the spell of the ego."

 

But Nisargadatta said:

"Reincarnation implies a reincarnating self. There is no such thing. (I Am

That, page 262)

 

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Sri Shankaracharya in Bhaja Govindam says,

 

"Punarapi Jananam Punarapi Maranam,

Punarapi Jananim Jattare Shayanam.

Ihasamasaare Bahudusthaare

Krupaya Paare Paahi Murare."

Bhaja Govinda Bhaja Govindam Govindam Bhaja

Moodamathe.

 

" Born again, dying again,

ever passing through the Mothers womb,

This worldly life is very hard to cross

Having mercy, save me O' Lord."

Sing name of Govinda , O Deluded one.

 

The Bhagavad Gita also tells of re-incarnation.

>From the absolute point of view, there is no birth and

no death and hence no re-birth.

>From our day to day experience, every Kamya Karma that

is done paves way for re-birth. Like Nisargadatta

Maharaj, if we find inaction in action, then there is

neither birth nor death.

But for the rest of us, the prospect of re-birth is an

interesting tool to tackle the problems of Karma.

If we know that, what we experience is due to our past

actions, then we can control the future by acting

wisely. In relative experience it is better to believe

in re-birth than not believe in it.

 

Anand

 

 

--- Miguel Angel Carrasco <macf12 wrote:

> V.M.Sundaram wrote :

> [...] "When the body dies, the jivaatama , along

> with ego , is reborn in

> another body. This repetitive cycle of birth and

> death continues until the

> jivaatama gets out of the spell of the ego."

>

> But Nisargadatta said:

> "Reincarnation implies a reincarnating self. There

> is no such thing. (I Am

> That, page 262)

>

 

 

 

 

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>"Miguel Angel Carrasco" <macf12

>advaitin

><advaitin>

> Re-incarnation

>Tue, 3 Apr 2001 07:57:40 +0100

>

>V.M.Sundaram wrote :

>[...] "When the body dies, the jivaatama , along with ego , is reborn in

>another body. This repetitive cycle of birth and death continues until the

>jivaatama gets out of the spell of the ego."

>

>But Nisargadatta said:

>"Reincarnation implies a reincarnating self. There is no such thing. (I

>Am

>That, page 262)

>

>Miguel-Angel

>

Shree Minguel-Angel -

 

The discussion of re-incornation is only from jiiva's perspective who

indetifies himself with the equipments not from the all pervading self that

the statement of Nisargadaatta Maharaj states. Hence both statements are

correct within their refereces. As long as we donot get confused from what

references these statements are made there is no problem.

 

It is like ring which thinks I am a ring now and I was a bangle in my last

life and I may reincornate as bracelet in my next life. But from the Gold

point - I am gold all the time never a ring, not a bangle nor a neckless -

they are in me and I am not in them -

 

Who reincornates? - From the gold point never. From the egotistical ring

point all the time.

 

Hari OM!

Sadananda

 

 

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