Guest guest Posted April 6, 2001 Report Share Posted April 6, 2001 Nanda Chandran <vpcnk> Fri Apr 6, 2001 11:10am Re : Discussions with Nanda Chandran Dear Sadananda, we'll first try to resolve the object/consciousness issue and then move on to nirvana. Regarding the non existance of consciousness apart from the object it perceives : >It sounds logical. It is not logical. It is every common man's experience. Just ask yourself - are you ever in a state in your normal life where your are only conscious. We're always conscious of some object or the other - whether mental or physical - either in the waking or dream state. Even the so called state of common self consciousness is only we being aware of ourselves as an object. Only in the deep sleep state is there no objects, but again neither is there any consciousness there! ________ I am not following this thread but perhaps what you mean to say is that you do not recall being conscious in deep sleep. It is a matter of practical knowledge that in the Yogic Samadhi (Kevala Nirvikalpa) one in essence enters deep sleep Fully Conscious. This is my own experience as well. Usually this is only after long and intense spiritual practice of many years and with Grace. Understanding the nature of both sleep and Samadhi is helpful for grasping the nature of consciousness. Ramana Maharshi has comprehensively discussed the topics of deep sleep and Nirvikalpa Samadhi and Sahaj Samadhi. For those actively practicing meditation, enquiry, and other yogic practices, the perspective of such great sages as Sri Ramana, which is based on direct experience and first hand knowledge, is indispensable. Harsha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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