Guest guest Posted May 6, 2001 Report Share Posted May 6, 2001 Namaste, On behalf of all of you I sincerely express my appreciation to Swami Dayananda Saraswati of Arsha Vidya Gurukulam for providing his commentary to benefit the list members. Part III: Verse # 30 regards, Ram Chandran BETWEEN ATMA AND THE WORLD THERE IS NO BASIS-BASED RELATIONSHIP Thus, we see that this basis-based relationship generally implies two different things. Here too, the jagat, the world, all the beings, sarva-bhutani, are based upon atma; and this is called sarva-bhutastha-atma, the atma that is the adhis¶hana for all beings. Even so, this is not a basis-based relationship. Such a division is not there because all the bhutas are non-separate from atma, which is why Krsna says here, sarva-bhutani atmani iksate. The person, the sarvatra sama-darsi — the one who sees the sama, atma, in everything — recognises all beings as non-separate from the paramatma, just as he or she sees the clay in the pots and the gold in the chains. Seeing all beings, time, space, everything, in atma is called atyanta-pralaya, a dissolution of the difference between objects and their cause. Atyanta-pralaya is not the dissolution of the world; it is the dissolution of the difference between the world and its karana, a difference born out of pure ajnana, ignorance. This difference, division, is resolved in the vision that, whatever that is here is non-separate from atma that is Brahman. yo mam pasyati sarvatra sarvam ca mayi pasyati tasyaham na pranasyami sa ca me na pranasyati Verse 30 yah — the one who; mam — Me; sarvatra — everywhere (in all beings); pasyati — sees; mayi — in Me; ca — and; sarvam — everything (all beings); pasyati — sees; tasya — for him (or her); aham — I; na pranasyami — am not remote; sah — he (or she); ca — and; me — (from) Me; na pranasyati — is not remote The one who sees Me in all beings and sees all beings in Me, for him (or her) I am not remote and he (or she) is not remote from Me. The vision of atma given in the previous verse is restated, using a different language, in the first line of this verse. The earlier expression, `sarva-bhutastham atmanam,' is put into the first person here — the one who recognises Me in all beings, yah mam pasyati sarvatra. `Me' does not, of course, refer to the person, occupying the driver's seat of Arjuna's chariot, named Krsna. Seated in the chariot, the person, Krsna, seems to have a definite location and, yet, when talking to Arjuna, he refers to himself as one who is everywhere, sarva-bhutastha-atma. Wherever there is a bhuta, a being, it has its being in Me alone. This `Me' is atma. Thus, by replacing the words `sarva-bhutastha-atmanam' with mam, meaning Isvara, Krsna quietly brings out the non-difference between Isvara and the individual, jiva. The one who sees Me, Isvara, in all beings, meaning as the adhis¶hana, the basis, of all beings, knows himself or herself to be that same Isvara, paramatma, being non-separate from atma. Krsna also says here that everything is in Me alone — sarvam ca mayi eva. I am the karana, the cause, for everything. I am the adhis¶hana for everything, the basis for everything. Thus, the person being discussed here recognises himself or herself in all beings and all beings in the self alone. The only difference between this verse and the previous verse, then, is that the word atma has been replaced by the first person, mam, `Me.' Between the `Me' in the present verse and atma in the previous verse, there is no difference whatsoever. One who sees atma in everything and everything in atma recognises Isvara, `Me,' in everything and everything in `Me.' I am the one who is the basis of all beings and in me all the beings have their being, their existence. CAN ISVARA BE A SEPARATE ENTITY? Between Isvara, Krsna, and jiva, the individual, there is no difference whatsoever. Is there another Isvara? Since Isvara is everything, how can he be separate from consciousness, caitanya, that is the atma? If caitanya-atma is limitless, i.e., Brahman, then, there is no way another being called Isvara can be standing separately somewhere. If this were the case, Isvara would become just another guy! Then there would be a difference between jiva and Isvara that could never be resolved. There are various contentions in terms of Isvara, the Lord, and the individual, which have to be analysed to see if there is any truth in them. Suppose you say, as some do, that the Lord is everywhere and I am a fraction of that Lord. Does this mean that all these fractions together make the Lord? If not, what does it mean? Which is the fraction, please tell me. Is your physical body the fraction? Is your mind the fraction? Or is atma-caitanya the fraction? And, in all of this, what is dependent on what? What is the reality of what? What is the reality of this physical body, this mind, etc.? When you analyse them all, you find only one existence, satya, and the svarupa of this satya is nothing but param brahma, which is caitanya-atma. When the sastra talks of Isvara, it is from one particular standpoint. All that is there is Paramesvara alone; jiva is also just a standpoint. Only from a particular standpoint is there a difference between jiva and Isvara — from the standpoint of the upadhi, there is jiva and there is Isvara. The resolution of the two takes place only in the appreciation of the essential paramatma, the satya-vastu. Therefore, when the Lord says, `I am the Lord — aham isvarah' and the jiva says, `I am an individual — aham jivah,' the aham is common and the difference is mithya, meaning that it is entirely dependent upon satya. The problem is the difference because, being dependent upon satya, mithya is not another thing. The whole jagat is mithya, depending upon the satya-vastu for its existence, and the satya-vastu is what is referred to by everyone as `I,' aham. Therefore, anyone who says `I,' including a mosquito, is param brahma alone. You are not `I' and param brahma, you are only param brahma. Even the person who does not know is param brahma. The statement, tat tvam asi, means you are param brahma right now; it is not something that you become later. Sruti does not say, `Ye shall become.' It says, `That thou art — tat tvam asi.' This sentence is possible only when the self is already Brahman, which is the vision unfolded in the previous verse and restated in the first line of the present verse; the one who sees Me in all beings and all beings in Me — yah mam pasyati sarvatra, sarvam ca mayi pasyati. This person is one who has the vision of the oneness of atma. Seeing atma in all beings and all beings in atma is the vision. THE RESULT OF THE VISION And what is the result of this vision? Here, Krsna uses the first person. Here the first person indicates that Krsna is talking as Isvara. He says, `For the person having this vision, I will not become remote — tasya aham na pranasyami,' meaning that, `I will no longer be something known only indirectly to the person.' Why? Because Isvara is atma. I do not become an indirect object of worship that is sitting somewhere. I do not become someone who is away from the person, because, Isvara is oneself, atma. And not only that — the person also does not go away from Me — sa ca me na pranasyati. I do not become remote for the person and the person does not go away from Me. This fact was already there, but previously the person did not know it. And now he or she knows. This is not something that just happened because of some interference on the part of the Lord. It was true before and it is true now. All that has happened is that the person did not know it before and now he or she knows. The person now sees himself or herself in all beings and all beings in the self. A person of this vision never goes away from Me, meaning there is no distance between Me and the person. Neither the person goes away from me nor I go away from the person. I do not become remote for the person and he or she does not become remote for Me. This means that previously there was a certain remoteness and Isvara, paramatma, was something that was sought after. Isvara was someone whose grace was invoked, etc. Now all the prayers and rituals have paid off. The payoff is the vision that between jiva and Isvara there is no difference. The difference is all resolved. This is what is meant here by the statement — tasya aham na pranasyami. I do not become something that is away for this person nor is the person away from Me. The Lord is usually presented as though he is behind a veil, and that, he can see us but we cannot see him. Therefore, the Lord is someone who always seems to be looking into your private affairs. But, here, in this verse, Krsna is saying that the Lord has no veil or cover, that prevents you from seeing him. Ignorance is the only veil there is and that covering has already been removed. Therefore, there is no obstacle; there is only one vision, the vision of the para-atma, the whole. Everything resolves into this one atma alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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