FW: study & intuitive understanding

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vicki [viorica]

study & intuitive understanding

 

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from THE TEACHINGS OS RAMANA MAHARSHI , edited by ARTHUR OSBORNE

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D:

Is the study of science,psychology,physiology ,etc., helpful for

attaining

yoga liberation or for intuitive understanding of the unity of Reality ?

 

Bhagavan:

 

Very little. Some theoretical knowledge may be found in books , but

practical application is what is needed.

Personal example and instruction are the most helpful aids.

 

As for intuitive understanding , a person may laboriously convince

himself

of the truth to be grasped by intuition , of its function and nature but

the actual intuition is more

like feeling and requires practice and personal contact.

Mere book learning is not of any great use. After Realization all

intelectual loads are useless burdens and are to be thrown overboard.

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Arthur Osborne explains :

 

Pre-occupation with theory , doctrine and filosophy can actually be harmful

insofar as it detracts a man from the really important work of spiritual

work of

spiritual effort by offering an easier alternative which is merely mental

and ,

which, therefore , cannot change his nature.

 

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Bhagavan :

 

"What use is the learning of those who do not seek to wipe out the letters

of

destiny (from their brow) by enquiring: " Whence is the birth of us who

knows the letters? "

They have sunk to the level of a gramophone.

What else are they , O Arunachala ?

 

It is those who are not learned that are saved rather thn those whose ego

has not subsided in spite of their learning.

The unlearned are saved from the rentless grip of the devil of

self-infatuation;

they are saved from the malady of a myriad whirling thoughts and words;

they

are saved from running after wealth.

It is from more than one evil that they are saved.

 

 

 

 

 

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Namaste:

 

The forwarded message from needs to be understood

properly with appropriate caveats and cautions. What Bhagawan Ramana

says is that the study of science, philosophy, scriptures etc. alone

will not take us directly to "God Realization." Bhagawan is quite

right and similar statements are plentiful in the Upanishads and Gita.

 

Only those who have spiritually evolved to the level of the

Bhagawan can abandon all learnings. They should be prepared to conduct

the Tabas (Deep Meditation as a True Sanyasi)and surrender their body

and mind to the Lord just like how Bhagawan did it in the Sanctum

Santorum of Arunachal. Bhagawan didn't seek food or drink or fame and

completely immersed with the SELF. When we reach that stage, we can

also abandon all methods of learning and interaction.

 

Any interpretation that leads to abandoning reading the Upanishads and

Gita will be also misleading because they have to read the book of

Bhagawan to get their guidance. The idea of abandoning doesn't come in

the flash of the mind but it also comes from a BOOK!

 

Finally, we should be aware that the Upanishads contain the

personal experiences of sages like Bhagwan Ramana Maharishi and are

consequently quite relevant. In conclusion, be aware that catch

phrases such 'abandonment' needs to be understood with proper

perspective and any hasty conclusions have pitfalls!

 

warmest regards,

 

Ram Chandran

 

advaitin, "Harsha" <harsha-hkl@h...> wrote:

>

> vicki [viorica@z...]

> study & intuitive understanding

>

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> from THE TEACHINGS OS RAMANA MAHARSHI , edited by ARTHUR OSBORNE

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

> D:

> Is the study of science,psychology,physiology ,etc., helpful for

> attaining

> yoga liberation or for intuitive understanding of the unity of

Reality ?

>

> Bhagavan:

>

> Very little. Some theoretical knowledge may be found in books ,

but

> practical application is what is needed.

> Personal example and instruction are the most helpful aids.

>

> As for intuitive understanding , a person may laboriously

convince

> himself

> of the truth to be grasped by intuition , of its function and

nature but

> the actual intuition is more

> like feeling and requires practice and personal contact.

> Mere book learning is not of any great use. After Realization all

> intelectual loads are useless burdens and are to be thrown

overboard.

> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^