Guest guest Posted May 17, 2001 Report Share Posted May 17, 2001 Namaste, Here is a forwarded message from Sri Nilesh. New members if they want to send a message, they should diretly send it to <advaitin> instead of me. My hands are full and I can't individually answer all the questions. Thanks for your cooperation, Warmest regards, Ram Chandran --- nileshkmehta wrote: > 17 May 2001 00:27:25 -0700 > ramvchandran .. > Bhagavad Gita -- Chapter Name > > > One thing I noticed whenever reading Bhagavad Gita > (BG) I have come across different chapter names in > different commentaries (In RK mission publication > they give some name & ISCKON publication "Bhagavad > Gita As It Is" it is something different & in > chinmaya mission publication something else). Could > anyone tell me as per the original text what are the > names that has been given for BG's 18 chapters. > Also please let me know if shankara/Ramanuja/Madhva > in their commentary have given any specific name to > these chapters. > > Where can I get the shankara/Ramanuja/ Madhva's > commentaries on concluding verse of BG chapters > i.e. " ithi sreemadbhagavadgitaasu upanishadsu > krishnaarjuna samvaade ........adhyaha: > > could anyone help me to get this info. > > Regards > Nilesh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2001 Report Share Posted May 17, 2001 |-------------> |(Embedded | |image moved | |to file: | |pic23096.pcx)| | | |-------------> >------| |Ram Chandran <ramvchandran | |05/17/2001 04:12 PM | >------| Please respond to advaitin Advaitin List <advaitin> cc: nileshkmehta (bcc: Bhaskar YR/BAN/INABB/ABB) Fwd: Bhagavad Gita -- Chapter Name Security Level:? Internal > One thing I noticed whenever reading Bhagavad Gita > (BG) I have come across different chapter names in > different commentaries (In RK mission publication > they give some name & ISCKON publication "Bhagavad > Gita As It Is" it is something different Dear Nilesh Prabhuji, Hare Krishna Srila Prabhupad gives suitable explanation before naming the Gita Chapters which appropriately suits the context of the chapter. I doubt very much whether original Gita Script contains any chapter name. This is my understanding. Other learned members of this list may help you in a better way. Hari Hari Hari Bol!! bhaskar y.r. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2001 Report Share Posted May 17, 2001 Hari OM! Narayana Smrithis! Blessed Self, You can read all the version of Srimad Bhagwad Geetha, there is no harm, each individual views in a different way, Even if you are sincere in the studies of Srimad Bhagwad Geetha you can yourself write your own translation, there is no harm.. Everything comes from Lord's mouth only. Adi Shankaracharya's Original scripts will be in Devanagiri scripts, which has to be translated. You can read Swami Chinmayanandaji's (Poojya Gurudev) book of Srimad Bhagawad Geetha, Everything has described so simple and anyone can understand it, even if you are following the so called Modern life. With Prem & OM! Krishna Prasad Maryland USA --- Ram Chandran <ramvchandran wrote: > Namaste, > > Here is a forwarded message from Sri Nilesh. New > members if they want to send a message, they should > diretly send it to <advaitin> instead > of me. My hands are full and I can't individually > answer all the questions. > > Thanks for your cooperation, > > Warmest regards, > > Ram Chandran > > --- nileshkmehta wrote: > > 17 May 2001 00:27:25 -0700 > > ramvchandran > . > > Bhagavad Gita -- Chapter Name > > > > > > One thing I noticed whenever reading Bhagavad Gita > > (BG) I have come across different chapter names in > > different commentaries (In RK mission publication > > they give some name & ISCKON publication "Bhagavad > > Gita As It Is" it is something different & in > > chinmaya mission publication something else). Could > > anyone tell me as per the original text what are the > > names that has been given for BG's 18 chapters. > > Also please let me know if shankara/Ramanuja/Madhva > > in their commentary have given any specific name to > > these chapters. > > > > Where can I get the shankara/Ramanuja/ Madhva's > > commentaries on concluding verse of BG chapters > > i.e. " ithi sreemadbhagavadgitaasu upanishadsu > > krishnaarjuna samvaade ........adhyaha: > > > > could anyone help me to get this info. > > > > Regards > > Nilesh. > Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2001 Report Share Posted May 17, 2001 Namaste, Pandit Satavalekar, in his voluminous commentary on the Gita [in Marathi], has devoted several pages to the elucidation of this problem, and considers it a great pity that the earliest extant commentary on the Gita, namely Shankara's, has not been scrupulously preserved in the colophons, and various commentators have instead advanced their own terminology! No wonder our acharyas are so insistent on preserving the 'shrutis' at least, with no distortions.. I have a vague recall of reading that the colophons were in fact a later addition by Sw. Vidyaranya. Maybe some members on the list would have additional information. Regards, s. advaitin, Krishna Prasad <rkrishp99> wrote: > Hari OM! Narayana Smrithis! > > Blessed Self, > > You can read all the version of Srimad Bhagwad Geetha, there is no > harm, each individual views in a different way, Even if you are > sincere in the studies of Srimad Bhagwad Geetha you can yourself > write your own translation, there is no harm.. > > Everything comes from Lord's mouth only. > > Adi Shankaracharya's Original scripts will be in Devanagiri scripts, > which has to be translated. You can read Swami Chinmayanandaji's > (Poojya Gurudev) book of Srimad Bhagawad Geetha, Everything has > described so simple and anyone can understand it, even if you are > following the so called Modern life. > > With Prem & OM! > > Krishna Prasad > Maryland > USA > --- Ram Chandran <ramvchandran> wrote: > > Namaste, > > > > Here is a forwarded message from Sri Nilesh. New > > members if they want to send a message, they should > > diretly send it to <advaitin> instead > > of me. My hands are full and I can't individually > > answer all the questions. > > > > Thanks for your cooperation, > > > > Warmest regards, > > > > Ram Chandran > > > > --- nileshkmehta@1... wrote: > > > 17 May 2001 00:27:25 -0700 > > > ramvchandran > > . > > > Bhagavad Gita -- Chapter Name > > > > > > > > > One thing I noticed whenever reading Bhagavad Gita > > > (BG) I have come across different chapter names in > > > different commentaries (In RK mission publication > > > they give some name & ISCKON publication "Bhagavad > > > Gita As It Is" it is something different & in > > > chinmaya mission publication something else). Could > > > anyone tell me as per the original text what are the > > > names that has been given for BG's 18 chapters. > > > Also please let me know if shankara/Ramanuja/Madhva > > > in their commentary have given any specific name to > > > these chapters. > > > > > > Where can I get the shankara/Ramanuja/ Madhva's > > > commentaries on concluding verse of BG chapters > > > i.e. " ithi sreemadbhagavadgitaasu upanishadsu > > > krishnaarjuna samvaade ........adhyaha: > > > > > > could anyone help me to get this info. > > > > > > Regards > > > Nilesh. > > > > > > > Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2001 Report Share Posted May 18, 2001 On Thu, 17 May 2001, Krishna Prasad wrote: > > Hari OM! Narayana Smrithis! > > Blessed Self, > > You can read all the version of Srimad Bhagwad Geetha, there is no > harm, each individual views in a different way, Even if you are > sincere in the studies of Srimad Bhagwad Geetha you can yourself > write your own translation, there is no harm.. > > Everything comes from Lord's mouth only. > > Adi Shankaracharya's Original scripts will be in Devanagiri scripts, > which has to be translated. You can read Swami Chinmayanandaji's > (Poojya Gurudev) book of Srimad Bhagawad Geetha, Everything has > described so simple and anyone can understand it, even if you are > following the so called Modern life. > Thanks for your suggestion. I have a copy of Chinmaya Mission's Srimad Bhagavad Gita. I also have a copy of RK mission's as well as ISKCON's. Both are good and worth reading if we are not biased in our view points. Regards Nilesh ____ 123India.com - India's Premier Portal Get your Free Email Account at http://www.123india.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2001 Report Share Posted May 18, 2001 On Thu, 17 May 2001, sunderh wrote: > > Namaste, > > Pandit Satavalekar, in his voluminous commentary on the Gita [in > Marathi], has devoted several pages to the elucidation of this > problem, and considers it a great pity that the earliest extant > commentary on the Gita, namely Shankara's, has not been scrupulously > preserved in the colophons, and various commentators have instead > advanced their own terminology! > > No wonder our acharyas are so insistent on preserving the > 'shrutis' at least, with no distortions. > But why sir, if that is the case, then it seems to me that they might have treated smruthi prasthana/pramana with "Let it go" attitude?? I am not clear why this differentiaion when they are considering all three pramanas (shruthi, smruthi & Nyaya) to substantiate their claims. > I have a vague recall of reading that the colophons were in fact > a later addition by Sw. Vidyaranya. Maybe some members on the list > would have additional information. > Thanks for your feedback. In his gita commentary, did Sri shankara comment on concluding verse of every chapter?? pls. clarify. > Regards, > > s. Regards Nilesh ____ 123India.com - India's Premier Portal Get your Free Email Account at http://www.123india.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2001 Report Share Posted May 18, 2001 advaitin, nileshkmehta@1... wrote: > > > But why sir, if that is the case, then it seems to me that they might have treated smruthi prasthana/pramana with "Let it go" attitude?? I am not clear why this differentiaion when they are considering all three pramanas (shruthi, smruthi & Nyaya) to substantiate their claims. > ********* Namaste, I am not in a position to answer that question! > > In his gita commentary, did Sri shankara comment on concluding verse of every chapter?? pls. clarify. ********* Shankara has not commented on the 'colophon' in any of the chapters; he has not done so for the whole of Chapter I also! [At least in what has survived of the commentary.] That seems to be argument of some that the colophon was a later addition. Regards, s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2001 Report Share Posted May 18, 2001 Namaste: I agree with Sunderji that the question raised by Sri Nilesh doesn't have any quick answer. One has to conduct a research project to find out the origin of chapter title and other details. Though the chapter title appear different in many Gita texts, essentially they convey the primary theme of verses in those chapters. Chapters in general are overlapping and same ideas are repeated in several chapters. The classification is subjective and the author brings some new insights by naming the title of the chapter. All differences of titles that we see are semantics and are not very important. All issues related to number of verses in the Original Gita and the number of chapters may not be resolvable. But most of the modern day Gita texts contain 700 slokas and 18 chapters with titles quite similar. An earlier version of Gita published in 1917 contained 26 chapters and 745 slokas. Web Site On Suddha Dharma Mandalam's Gita: http://sites.netscape.net/aguajardot/index.html (The Suddha Dharma Mandalam Edition of Srimad Bhagavad Gita (with 26 adhyayas and 745 slokas) it was first published in 1917 by the late Dr. Sir S. Subrahmanier and the late Pandit K. T. Sreenivasacharya; they were enabled to do so by some of the Elders of the Suddha Dharma Mandalam, who graciously secured for the purpose the Manuscript of this Text, along with those of other philosophic works, in Their safe keeping, from the archives of Suddha Kosha in the Maha Guha in Northern India This version SDM' Gita of 26 chapters have 4 shatkams: Gnana, Bhakti, Karma and Yoga Shatkams, each with 6 chapters or six Dharmas, doing 24 Dharmas (Gayatri). The first three Shatkams do Sankhya Kandam and Yoga Shatkam is Yoga Kandam; and the first chapter is about analytic study of Pranava(AUM) and the last chapter signified synthetic Pranava(OM).) I hope to see other explanations for the questions addressed by Sri Nilesh. Warmest regards, Ram Chandran advaitin, sunderh wrote: > Namaste, > I am not in a position to answer that question! > > Shankara has not commented on the 'colophon' in any of the > chapters; he has not done so for the whole of Chapter I also! [At > least in what has survived of the commentary.] That seems to be > argument of some that the colophon was a later addition. > > Regards, > > s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2001 Report Share Posted May 18, 2001 |-------------> |(Embedded | |image moved | |to file: | |pic18442.pcx)| | | |-------------> >------| |sunderh | |05/18/2001 06:05 PM | >------| Please respond to advaitin advaitin cc: (bcc: Bhaskar YR/BAN/INABB/ABB) Re: Fwd: Bhagavad Gita -- Chapter Name Security Level:? Internal Shankara has not commented on the 'colophon' in any of the chapters; he has not done so for the whole of Chapter I also! [At least in what has survived of the commentary.] That seems to be argument of some that the colophon was a later addition. > Hare Krishna Sunder Prabhuji, Yes, I have read about this in Sri SachidAnandEndra saraswathi's book *Shankarara Sarva Sammata Upadeshagalu* (Kannada Book). He further clarifies that even RamAnuja & Madhva also have not commented on the 'colophon' in their respective commentaries on Srimad Bhagavad Gita. Hari Hari Hari Bol, bhaskar y.r. Regards, s. Discussion of Shankara's Advaita Vedanta Philosophy of nonseparablity of Atman and Brahman. Advaitin List Archives available at: http://www.eScribe.com/culture/advaitin/ To Post a message send an email to : advaitin Messages Archived at: advaitin/messages Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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