Guest guest Posted July 7, 2001 Report Share Posted July 7, 2001 Dear Atman, Indeed, Self-enlightenment (Knowing your own Self) is everything. One cannot attain anything greater than this. Indeed it is Self-realization, which some call God-realization, and in the terms of Rig-veda it is called obtaining the Parama Pada of Vishnu, and in the terms of Jesus it is called the king-dome of Heaven. The comparison may become obvious with the following two statements, "The Great Saints always perceive the Parama Pada of Vishnu, like in the day the eye sees the objects scattered around it " (Rig-veda) and " the kingdom is within you and it is outside you" (The Gospel of Thomas). What does Parama Pada mean? The Highest abode. Pada means that which has to be obtained. Padyate Gamyate Jneyate iti Padam. Please note that in Vedanta all the verbs which have the meaning "to go", can also mean "to know". Thus, finally the word means "that which has to be known". And that which has to be known, is not existing in a particular place, but indeed it is existing everywhere. But, still why do we need to perceive it in our own self, I think only Shankaracharya makes it clear in his Bhashyam of BrahmaSutra, that though the Supreme Brahman is existing everywhere indifferently, outside and within, still if one wants to perceive it, one has to perceive it in his Dahara Akasha (the space within one's heart), because he transcends all the physical or mental perceptions. The heart is the only place where the "transmission" can be "received". Thus, when we meditate, we try to place our mind in to our heart. mano hridaye, hridayam mayi, ahamamrite, amritam brahmani; say the Vedas. Self-realization is the greatest thing, because one's life is useless without it. Thus say the Upanishads, "If you know It in this very life, then it is perfect; if not, then it is a great loss" (Kena Upanishad). It is the same thing what Maharshi Yajnavalkya told to Gargi, "He who dies without know that Imperishable, is the poorest". Same says Jesus, " But if you do not know yourselves, then you live in poverty, and you are the poverty" (The Gospel of Thomas 3). Whatever we obtain in this world, would be left aside, would be left here, this is a fact that nothing is going to come with us. So, we came empty-handed, do we really want to go empty-handed from this world, as the rest among us do; or would we rather like to get something and then take it with us? Only then we are rich enough to enter the Kingdome of Vishnu. Let us see how mysteriously Jesus places it, " Those who seek should not stop seeking until they find. When they find, they will be disturbed. When they are disturbed, they will marvel, and will reign over all" (The Gospel of Thomas). In the Service of the Vedas, Siddhartha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2001 Report Share Posted July 8, 2001 Humble pranams Siddaji thanks for very interesting topic. Can Siddaji or anyone kindly explain the sentences below for me to understand more clearly. Siddaji wrote: > that which has to be known, is not existing in a particular place, but > indeed it is existing everywhere. But, still why do we need to perceive it > in our own self, I think only Shankaracharya makes it clear in his Bhashyam > of BrahmaSutra, that though the Supreme Brahman is existing everywhere > indifferently, outside and within, still if one wants to perceive it, one > has to perceive it in his Dahara Akasha (the space within one's heart), > because he transcends all the physical or mental perceptions. The heart is > the only place where the "transmission" can be "received". Thus, when we > meditate, we try to place our mind in to our heart. mano hridaye, hridayam > mayi, ahamamrite, amritam brahmani; say the Vedas. > Self-realization is the greatest thing, because one's life is useless > without it. Thus say the Upanishads, Hari Om Miss kalaimalar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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