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namaste.

 

While we are on the topic of ignorance, a few more thoughts

(mainly paraphrasing from swami Satchidanandendra saraswati).

 

1. Everyone superimposes every kind of activity, which really

belongs to name and form, on to the SELF, and superimposes

the property of light, which belongs to the SELF alone onto

name and form. Hence they get confused by statements such as

"This is my SELF", "I am gummuluru murthy", "I act", "I do

things", "It goes", "It comes", etc.

 

2. In the rope-snake superimposition, the rope is not affected

in any way by the superimposition of the snake. We erroneously

attribute the properties of the snake onto the rope without

the rope being affected in any way.

 

Similarly, the superimposition of name and form onto the SELF

in no way affects the SELF. The SELF is and will always be in

its pure untainted pristine condition. The superimposed

impurities do not affect the SELF.

 

3. Similarly, the disease of delusion and ignorance which we think

we are afflicted with is really not there in that Absolute and

does not really affect the SELF.

 

4. The notion of knowledge and ignorance pertain to the realm of

ignorance only.

 

5. There are three kinds of ignorance: absence of knowledge, doubt

regarding the Truth, and wrong knowledge. While all the three

obscure the true nature of reality, it is wrong knowledge which

is most damaging and steers our view of the jagat into wrong

direction.

 

It seems in a way that these three kinds of ignorance -

absence of knowledge, doubt regarding the Truth and wrong

knowledge - roughly correspond sequentially to the jIvA's

three states of deep-sleep, dream and wake-up states. While

I can see the correlation for deep-sleep and wake-up states,

I do not fully see for the dream-state. Any help?

 

 

Regards

Gummuluru Murthy

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Namaste Gummuluruji:

 

Your explanation confirms that we are all quite knowledgeable about

ignorance! The reason that we do not fully see dream-state is because

we are still not out of the dream state. This is a classical paradox

and only Brahman can explain fully all the three states. We can

speculate and most of the time we just expose our ignorance during our

speculations.

 

Your statement that "The notion of knowledge and ignorance pertain to

the realm of ignorance only" is an excellent one for contemplation.

The same statment can also be restated as "The desire to remove

our ignorance is caused only by ignorance!" Such desires will not

certainly liberate us from life of ignorance to the light of Bliss.

 

I have another comment regarding snake-rope superimposition. In

examples such as snake-rope or ghost-post such superimpositions

without affecting the rope or illusionary snake or post or the

illusionary ghost. But in actual life when we errorneously

superimpose a thief on to an innocent person, both get affected. In

this case our ignorance can inject potentially irrecovable damages.

The bottom line message of Vedanta is: "The highest goal of human life

is God (SELF) Realization." Without realization, we are bound to

believe that 'we are ignorant' and we likely to superimpose the False

with the Truth!

 

warmest regards,

 

Ram Chandran

 

advaitin, Gummuluru Murthy <gmurthy@m...> wrote:

>

> namaste.

>

> While we are on the topic of ignorance, a few more thoughts

> (mainly paraphrasing from swami Satchidanandendra saraswati).

> ...............

> I do not fully see for the dream-state. Any help?

> Regards

> Gummuluru Murthy

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