Guest guest Posted July 24, 2001 Report Share Posted July 24, 2001 Dear Viswanathan, I guess I did not communicate my thoughts clearly. I never intended to mean that we who seek the "Self", are not contributing enough to the society. What I meant is something like this: This quest of the "Self" is like a tour with a very high goal - the exact nature of this goal is debatable - to avoid getting into those issues, let us simply call it the Supreme goal. Suppose one embarks on this challenging tour with eyes and mind set on the Supreme goal alone. A possible drawback of such a frame of mind is: along the way we might be passing through the most scenic terrains, but these views will never catch our attention. May be the solutions to many of the problems that surround us, lie on the way. My point was if this is the case are we forgetting to take notice of what naturally lies on the way ? May be in the Quest of the "Self", solutions that we often hopelessly seek, knock at our door, is it likely that, many a times, we don't even hear the knock ? Regards Shrinivas Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Messenger http://phonecard./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2001 Report Share Posted July 24, 2001 > > >This quest of the "Self" is like a tour with >a very high goal - the exact nature of this >goal is debatable - to avoid getting into those >issues, let us simply call it the Supreme goal. >Suppose one embarks on this challenging tour >with eyes and mind set on the Supreme goal alone. >A possible drawback of such a frame of mind is: >along the way we might be passing through >the most scenic terrains, but these views will >never catch our attention. Shreenivas - If I may present my perspective - the supreme goal in the sense of puurNam is all inclusive - it only provides the vision of the truth separating the misunderstanding of ourselves, the world and our interrelation. If I do not have clear concept of who I am in relation to the world, like a drunkard on the street who lost his clear identity and in the process goes on hugging a tree or a post crying out 'Oh my darling why do n't you talk to me' - I will end up as miserable guy, crying and weeping with every wave of change that befalls on me during the life span. Mind in search of the truth apprecates more the scenic beauties on the path - the beauty of the flower on the plant without trying to grab it for self-fish enjoyment, the running of squirrel from a tree to a tree, the beauty in the smile of an innocent child, the love of a mother, the beauty of the rain fall, in every natures manifestation - one becomes one and merges with the scenic terrains not separate from it. Please read Geetajali where Tagore offers his anjali to scenic terrains that he encounters. I enjoy my science work and see the beauty of His hand which I would not have if I am clouded with the notion that I am working to earn my wage. Vedanta provides the vision of the reality taking away the false notion of the reality. Hari Om! Sadananda >May be the solutions to many of the problems >that surround us, lie on the way. My point was >if this is the case are we forgetting to take >notice of what naturally lies on the way ? May >be in the Quest of the "Self", solutions that we >often hopelessly seek, knock at our door, is it >likely that, many a times, we don't even hear >the knock ? > > >Regards >Shrinivas > > > >Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Messenger ><http://phonecard./>http://phonecard./ > > Sponsor ><http://rd./M=210156.1528653.3092245.1456761/D=egroupweb/S=1705075991:\ HM/A=734164/R=0/*https://www.joinonespirit.com/mybookclub/healthyliving/bookclub\ s/osp/JoinFast/c2/c2_coupon.htm/?src=015_02_hh_273_181_1433> > >Discussion of Shankara's Advaita Vedanta Philosophy of >nonseparablity of Atman and Brahman. >Advaitin List Archives available at: ><http://www.eScribe.com/culture/advaitin/>http://www.eScribe.com/culture/advait\ in/ >To Post a message send an email to : advaitin >Messages Archived at: ><advaitin/messages>\ advaitin/messages > > > >Your use of is subject to the ><> -- K. Sadananda Code 6323 Naval Research Laboratory Washington D.C. 20375 Voice (202)767-2117 Fax:(202)767-2623 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2001 Report Share Posted July 24, 2001 Shrinivas Gadkari [sgadkari2001] Tuesday, July 24, 2001 2:24 AM advaitin A Clarification on the few Questions Dear Viswanathan, I guess I did not communicate my thoughts clearly. I never intended to mean that we who seek the "Self", are not contributing enough to the society. What I meant is something like this: This quest of the "Self" is like a tour with a very high goal - the exact nature of this goal is debatable - to avoid getting into those issues, let us simply call it the Supreme goal. Suppose one embarks on this challenging tour with eyes and mind set on the Supreme goal alone. A possible drawback of such a frame of mind is: along the way we might be passing through the most scenic terrains, but these views will never catch our attention. Regards Shrinivas ************************** Namaste Srinivasji Perhaps you can periodically communicate to the Advaitin list various scenic terrains that the Advaitins may be missing. You will have the joy of doing service to the community and we will get a chance to enjoy the scenic terrains! :-). On a serious note, there is no path as scenic as the path to the Self. All scenic terrains rise from that and subside in that only. The Beauty of the Self gives beauty to all scenes and all things. The joy and beauty we perceive from things is a reflection of the natural Ananda that perpetually spring up from the Self - Ananda, being our Self-Nature. The Sages beautifully declare, "Know That, by which all else is known!" (This would include scenic terrains!) Hari Om! Love to all Harsha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2001 Report Share Posted July 24, 2001 Dear Shrinivas, Very true. As humans some (may be many!) Advaitins may become oblivious of the scenic terrains in the Vedantic path. If the Quest of the Self is genuine and one (Advaitin or not) hears even mildly one's Self, most knocks begin to be heard one by one, however feeble they are. Till then the hope is that these discussions will make the mind tranquil enough by self-enquiry to hear the feeble sounds of the Self. -- Vis - - "Shrinivas Gadkari" <sgadkari2001 <advaitin> Monday, July 23, 2001 11:23 PM A Clarification on the few Questions > A possible drawback of such a frame of mind is: > along the way we might be passing through > the most scenic terrains, but these views will > never catch our attention. > > May be the solutions to many of the problems > that surround us, lie on the way. My point was > if this is the case are we forgetting to take > notice of what naturally lies on the way ? May > be in the Quest of the "Self", solutions that we > often hopelessly seek, knock at our door, is it > likely that, many a times, we don't even hear > the knock ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2001 Report Share Posted July 24, 2001 Namaste, It is a wrong and mistaken notion that Advaitins may miss the scenic paths. In actuality, the scenes are brighter, more melodious, etc. The bliss of advaita is infinitely glorious compared to that limited to sensate joy. With every breath, the Spirit is saying 'so.aham'; but we do not have the sensitivity to appreciate it! Regards, s. advaitin, "R. Viswanathan" <drvis@h...> wrote: > Dear Shrinivas, > Very true. As humans some (may be many!) Advaitins may become oblivious of > the scenic terrains in the Vedantic path. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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