RE: FW: [BhagavadGitaLab] Shankara quote....and others

[Guest guest]

Brian,

 

Do you know Dennis Heaton from TM. He is at Maharishi Institute of Management

in Fairfield and the Chair of the department still, I think. I ran into him at

the Academy of Management Meetings in Washington D.C. over the weekend. It had

been years since I saw him and Curly King and others. Well, I happened to be

passing by looking at the management books the publishers were displaying and he

recognized me (perhaps my name tag helped) and said hello. Of course, my visit

to Fairfield all came back to me. We saw several other professors there as well

who have a background in TM going back a few decades. I heard Dennis present a

paper and participated with him in some groups. He is a good man. I have always

felt that TM was a bit limited and dogmatic, but all my friends in TM are

wonderful people and I love them dearly.

 

I also ran into some Hindu and Jain and other professors of management at the

conference and mentioned . The response was positive and I will

try to send everyone information on now to join the group. Dennis and a couple

of his buddies might join as well and give us the benefit of their wisdom.

 

Love to all

Harsha

 

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Brian Milnes [b.milnes]

Saturday, August 11, 2001 6:46 AM

'advaitin'

FW: [bhagavadGitaLab] Shankara quote....and others

 

 

I forward this message due to its beautiful quotes, which I hope this group

will also appreciate.

 

Brian

 

 

nf108 [nf108]

Thursday, 9 August 2001 02:10

BhagavadGitaLab

[bhagavadGitaLab] Shankara quote....and others

 

 

Dear friends:

 

Happened upon these quotes....wonderful, they start a few of the chapters of

Ken Wilber's book One Taste. It is a journal account, very personal. He

has tremendous respect for TM and especially for the research being done.

This is a compliment given the respect Wilber has in the transpersonal

psychology area .

 

As for the quotes, we have all tasted that which is described, after a while

it does not seem so unusual, thus we forget how wonderful it is. I welcome

your thoughts on these quotes.....neil

 

 

 

Now I shall tell you the nature of this absolute Witness. If you recognize

it, you will be freed from the bonds of ignorance and attain liberation.

 

There is a self-existent reality, which is the basis of our consciousness of

ego. That reality is the Witness of the states of ego consciousness and of

the body. That reality is the constant Witness in all three states of

consciousness….waking, dreaming, and dreamless sleep. It is your real Self.

 

That Reality pervades the universe. It alone shines. The universe shines

with its reflected light.

 

Its nature is timeless awareness. It knows all things, Witnesses all

things, from the ego to the body. It is the Witness of pleasure and pain

and the sense objects. This is your real Self, the Supreme Being, the

Ancient. It never ceases to experience infinite release. It is unwavering.

It is Spirit itself…………..Shankara

 

 

 

There is no reaching the Self. If Self were to be reached, it would mean

that the Self is not here and now but that it is yet to be obtained. What

is got afresh will also be lost. So it will be impermanent. What is not

permanent is not worth striving for. So I say that the Self is not reached.

 

You are the Self; you are already That. …………. Ramana Maharishi

 

 

The self-luminous, vividly clear, present wakefulness and awareness,

In which form and Emptiness are non-dual,

Is the consciousness in which the three states [waking, dream, sleep] are

spontaneously present.

Maintain it day and night in a continuous practice, my heart children.

This is how non-duality is the natural freedom…….Tsogdruk Randgrol

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hello Harsha

 

No, I'm not really familiar with the TM movement in the US, as I've lived

and worked almost exclusively in the UK. I live in the village that hosted

the UK TM HQ, Mentmore Towers, until they left - the guys on the Purusha

programme went to the new centre in North Carolina, Geoffrey Clements and

the other UK HQ staff to (I think) Roydon Hall, the TM centre in Kent.

 

Despite it's failings and frailties, the TM movement has been responsible

for giving more people a direct experience of their inner Self than any

other organisation in modern history. That's no mean achievement.

 

For some of us, TM was a gateway, for example, to exploration of eastern

philosophies from an experiential basis and allowed us to understand the

spiritual commonalities in otherwise disparate religions.

 

Regards

 

Brian

 

 

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| Harsha [harsha-hkl]

| Saturday, 11 August 2001 13:26

| advaitin

| RE: FW: [bhagavadGitaLab] Shankara quote....and

| others

|

|

| Brian,

|

| Do you know Dennis Heaton from TM. He is at Maharishi

| Institute of Management in Fairfield and the Chair of the

| department still, I think. I ran into him at the Academy of

| Management Meetings in Washington D.C. over the weekend. It

| had been years since I saw him and Curly King and others.

| Well, I happened to be passing by looking at the management

| books the publishers were displaying and he recognized me

| (perhaps my name tag helped) and said hello. Of course, my

| visit to Fairfield all came back to me. We saw several other

| professors there as well who have a background in TM going

| back a few decades. I heard Dennis present a paper and

| participated with him in some groups. He is a good man. I

| have always felt that TM was a bit limited and dogmatic, but

| all my friends in TM are wonderful people and I love them dearly.

|

| I also ran into some Hindu and Jain and other

| professors of management at the conference and mentioned

| . The response was positive and I will try to

| send everyone information on now to join the group. Dennis

| and a couple of his buddies might join as well and give us

| the benefit of their wisdom.

|

| Love to all

| Harsha

|

| To join click below

|

| /join

|

|

|

|

|