Guest guest Posted August 15, 2001 Report Share Posted August 15, 2001 > Why all the avataras of Ishwara and Vishnu occurred only in India? >why the benefit was not given to other countries? If the avataras >are intended for people in Bharatavarsha, what was the form of >salvation for others? > Shree Ramasway Balu - thanks for sending me a copy of your post submitted to a lists-advaita vedanta org. Avatara means avatarati iti - that which descends to this phenomenal world obviously from a higher state. The supreme Brahman has no specific reason of his own to descend down that is he has no individual vaasana-s which are the cause for or karaNa for any shariira. Hence the cause must come else where. The cause as KrishNa explains in Giita - paritraanaaya sadhuunam, vinaashaayas dushhkR^itam - to uplift the good and to punish the wicked. Hence it is the samashhTi vaasaNa-s that demand the Lord to come down. Even if one examines the Bhagavata puraaNa, all the gods and R^ishies and the mother earth go and request Lord to take birth to destroy the wicked and protect the good. There is always belief associated that a particular person is an avataara or not. But even in India everyone does not recognize a given person as avataara. Even at Rama's time and KrishNa's time, some recognized them as avatara-s some denied that they are. Duryodhana never considered KrishNa as avatara. Our Hindu upbringing is such that we glorify our teachers and our guru's as avataara purusha. Shankara is considered as avatara of Lord Shankara while Madhva's consider him as prachhanna Bhouddha. SrivaishhNavates consider Ramanuja as avatara of Rama anuja or adhisheshha. Madhva's consider acharya Madhva as avatara of Hanuman. The concept of avatara is easily acceptable for Hindu frame of mind where reincarnation is part of the Vedic philosophy since life is a continuous cycle. We address the noble- hearted ones a bhagavaan. We have lot of Bhagavaans in India, some self declared and some declared by others. That is our culture. In other traditions too there are very many great souls but their culture does not have notions of avataara. In Judaism the concept of Messiah is there but when Jesus came, only few Jews consider him as the son of God but not by many. The Jews are still expecting the avataara. The theosophists used to consider J. Krishnamuurthy as the avataara or messiah and were preparing ground for him, by forming a society as the order of the star - until one day J.K. president of that society abolished that order saying that 'truth is a path-less land'. The theosophists disassociated from him looking for another one in his place. But looking back JK ended up like an avatara purusha, teaching the essence of truth in his own way. In India the life is tuned towards higher and the environment is conducive for spiritual growth. The Ramayana and Mahabharata - along with Vedas and Bhagavad Giita are conducive to help turn the direction of the mind to higher. The story of Rama and Krishna fascinates even a child to adult in the same way. The beauty is however number of times one reads or listens still the mind gets attracted to it. That is because it is His story. That which is beyond any form or words of description captured in form that the mind can grasp. That is the beauty of the avataara concept and help in ones own evolution through devotion. We are indeed blessed in that way. All religions of course emphasize para Bhakti or supreme devotion as the essential means of salvation and karma yoga for purification. I advise one to read "The Saint Francis of Assisi" - I do not remember the famous author's name -A Greek name. But it is very beautiful to read and you can see the essence of Vedanta through the story. Hari Om! Sadananda -- K. Sadananda Code 6323 Naval Research Laboratory Washington D.C. 20375 Voice (202)767-2117 Fax:(202)767-2623 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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