Guest guest Posted August 17, 2001 Report Share Posted August 17, 2001 For the attention of all members on the list. I have not been able to get convincing answers to the following questions pertaining to the Hindu religion and culture, except that they are all prescribed by the sastras: 1.Why is the number 108 important? It is recommended in japa, in offerings, in recitations, and so on. What is the significance of 108? My own guess is: It must have something to do with the number of times we breathe in and out in 24 hours. This number is 21600 as per the scriptures. 2. Why is 'pradakshina' (meaning, keeping the deity to your right all the time) important? What is the significance of this clockwise circumambulation vis-a-vis the anticlockwise circumambulation? The latter is the style in all athletics. Is the answer connected to the fact that the heart works in a certain way? 3. Why is it prescribed to step first with your right foot when you enter your new house, or your friend's house, or for an auspicious ritual? Preference given to the right hand is perhaps understandable because of the traditional substitution of the left hand for the modern toilet paper. But you cannot even think of any such thing for the 'right foot'.My own guess is there is something intrinsically important with the 'right' rather than'left'. . praNAms to all advaitins. profvk You may access three on-line books of mine at the following site: http://www.geocities.com/profvk The books are: Science and Spirituality - A Vedanta Perception Gems from the Ocean of Hindu Thought, Vision & Practice Overview of Hindu worship with spl. refce. to South India _______ Get your free @ address at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2001 Report Share Posted August 17, 2001 Namaste, Found this extra-ordinarily enlightening explanation of pradakshina at URL: pradakshina http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/oct99/0065.html ___________________ For the number 108, there are several explanations given from different view-points: http://www.omsakthi.org/worship/mantra.html The number 108 has been considered sacred for thousands of years in India. The origin of this number probably lies in astronomy. The average distance from the sun and moon to the earth is 108 times each of their respective diameters. This is true to an accuracy of 0.5% for the Sun and 2% for the Moon. [this mystic number apparently is common to many other traditions.] Regards, sunder advaitin, profvk wrote: > For the attention of all members on the list. > I have not been able to get convincing answers to the following > questions pertaining to the Hindu religion and culture, except > that they are all prescribed by the sastras: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2001 Report Share Posted August 19, 2001 Namaste, The most plausible and satisfying explanation [for me] is related to the 'kuNDali' (horoscope) and the science of mantra-japa (chanting of a divine name). The horoscope has 12 'houses' [called 'raashi'] for the Sun's transit, and there are nine planets which circle the sun, in various alignments. [The product of 12 x 9 = 108] Chanting a mantra 10 million times for each 'house', leads to 'purification' of each house [Many details are given in a Marathi book by R.K.Kamat]. Purification means removal of obstructions and promotion of benefits related to that 'house'. After all the 'houses' are thus purified, one becomes fit to receive the Divine grace, in the form of 'initiation' by a 'sadguru' [who is none other than a 'representative' of the Divine]. This has been [and can be] confirmed by many a saint and devotees [some of whom were sceptics too]. [There are many other details about about 'mantra-japa' which would take us beyond the scope of this List]. May all seekers taste the sweetness of the Divine Name! Regards, sunder advaitin, profvk wrote: > > 1.Why is the number 108 important? It is recommended in > japa, in offerings, in recitations, and so on. What is the > significance of 108? My own guess is: It must have something > to do with the number of times we breathe in and out in 24 > hours. This number is 21600 as per the scriptures. Get your free @ address at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2001 Report Share Posted August 21, 2001 On Sat, 18 Aug 2001 profvk wrote: > For the attention of all members on the list. > I have not been able to get convincing answers to the following > questions pertaining to the Hindu religion and culture, except > that they are all prescribed by the sastras: > > [...] namaste. I am not a scholar of karmakANDa of the vedA-s. The following is a free translation of an excerpt from "VEDASARA RATNAVALI" by shri Uppuluri ganapati Sastry garu. Reason for using the right hand for eating food As part of a procedure of performing the yagna mahAgnicainam, the bricks are arranged in the shape of an eagle in five layers. Each layer is called prastAra. While the fourth prastAra on the dakshiNa side is created, the following mantra is chanted. vyoma saptadasha iti dakshiNato'nnam vai vyomAnnam saptadishonnameva dakshiNato dhatte tasmAddakshiNe nAnnamadyate KrishNa yajurveda samhita 5.3.3 In this the sounds vyoma and saptadashaH both mean annam (according to very detailed logic given); as the dakshiNa side is set up while chanting the mantra, the human eats with the right hand. Reason for using the right hand in daivapUja, blessings etc Again from KrishNa yajurveda samhita 5.3.3 bradhnasya viShTapaM catustrigmsha iti dakshinatosau vA Adityo bradhnasya viShTapaM brahmavarcasameva dakshiNato dhatte dakshinortho brahmavarcasitaraH Here, bradhnasya viShTapam refers to Aditya. In the southerly direction, the mantra referring to Aditya is used and this means the right hand has more brahmavarchas than the left hand, i.e., the right hand is to be used in homa, pUjA, blessings etc. This book also contains interesting explanations taken from karmakANDa for for e.g. (i) the bikshApAtra is to be held by the left hand; (ii) gr^ihasthA's bhojana procedures, etc. Why is the pradakshiNa made towards the right, i.e. in a clockwise position: This is from the book ACARALU, SHASTRIYATA compiled by Patil Mallareddy and again what follows is a free translation. There are no references to vedA-s and I am unsure whether this is the proper explanation. When we do sAShTAnga namaskAram following pradakshiNa, the bloodflow inside the body must be smooth and free. The body has to be brought to the floor level and then lifted up. During this process, there is every possibility that some limb or other may be badly affected (if the blood-flow is not smooth). There is a possibility of even malfunctioning of the heart. In order to avoid this difficulty, one has to do pradakshiNa. And in this pradakshiNa, we have to turn towards the right. During pradkshiNa, the functioning of the aorta blood vessel (that carries oxygen-rich blood from the heart to other parts of the body), will be more efficient if we turn towards the right rather than to the left. Regards Gummuluru Murthy -------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2001 Report Share Posted August 21, 2001 advaitin, Gummuluru Murthy <gmurthy@m...> wrote: > > This is from the book ACARALU, SHASTRIYATA compiled by > Patil Mallareddy and again what follows is a free translation. > There are no references to vedA-s and I am unsure whether > this is the proper explanation. > > When we do sAShTAnga namaskAram following pradakshiNa, the > bloodflow inside the body must be smooth and free. The body > has to be brought to the floor level and then lifted up. > During this process, there is every possibility that some > limb or other may be badly affected (if the blood-flow is > not smooth). There is a possibility of even malfunctioning > of the heart. In order to avoid this difficulty, one has > to do pradakshiNa. And in this pradakshiNa, we have to turn > towards the right. During pradkshiNa, the functioning of the > aorta blood vessel (that carries oxygen-rich blood from the > heart to other parts of the body), will be more efficient if > we turn towards the right rather than to the left. > > > Regards > Gummuluru Murthy Physiologically, what causes asymmetry in the human body significant enough to make a difference between right and the left? Heart. This might of naturally led in a way for us to prefer right over the left. Besides, the way the left and right side of the brain controls the body is another thing. If I am not mistaken, left is the center of ego and it controls the right half of the body. I have a feeling that human biology plays a significant role in this. Other possibility is our understanding of motion of heavenly bodies, such as moon and (apparent motion of) sun around earth. Of the three questions, there are only two unique questions. In indian tradition, daxiNa means right. This is because orientation is determined facing the East. As I am writing this, suddenly I have become too conscious of my body, and even my heart, I think better not to waste time on these matters and spend it on contemplating on God. My 2c. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2001 Report Share Posted August 21, 2001 Murthygaru and Ravishankar Thanks. I knew I would get the right clues from members of this list. Thanks once again. PraNAms to all advaitins. profvk You may access three on-line books of mine at the following site: http://www.geocities.com/profvk The books are: Science and Spirituality - A Vedanta Perception Gems from the Ocean of Hindu Thought, Vision & Practice Overview of Hindu worship with spl. refce. to South India _______ Get your free @ address at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2001 Report Share Posted August 22, 2001 For some reason - the mail I posted last Sunday from home in response to Prof. VK post did not make it and I lost it. The gist of what I wrote from memory is given below. The answers are only my speculation and not based on scriptural support. 1. Why 108? (a) One and eight are separated by zero and number of zero's that can be added between 1 and 8 can be zero to many. Hence it can be 18, 108, 1008, 10008 etc. Zero's by them selves have no value other than signifying as such - that is it has no intrinsic value but gains the value depending how or where we position it in our value system. Eight stands for the eight fold aspect of nature - Krishna says - bhumi aapaH analaH vaayuH kham manaH buddhiH eva ca| ahankaaraH itiiayam me bhinnaa prak^iti ashhTadhaa|| earth, water, fire, wind, space, mind and intellect and ego - are my eight fold aspect of prakR^iti. This is supported by the - one that is by Me - apareyam itaH tu anyaam prakR^itim viddhi me paraam| (7-4 &5). The eight fold prak^iti can diverge to multiple plurality by adding as many zeros as one projects. But all stemming from one which is my supreme nature - (me paraama). Essentially one manifests as many because of prakR^iti which include both objective and subjective aspects by including pancha bhuutas that include the grosser body and the antaH karaNa-s, mind, intellect and ego. The one world or universe is divided into eight corners -This aspect also signifies in terms of ones pradakshanam or rotating around oneself - one is the center and eight corners rotating around one. We chant 108 or 1008 names to indicate that by them selves have zero value but their strength lies in the fact they are indicative of the one truth that one sanding in front, from which may diverge but have only zero value since one plus many still remain as one - like one gold becoming many ornaments. Hence all the 108 names are indicative of one who cannot be named and whose name we are chanting. (b) The sum of the numbers 18, 108 etc is all divisible by three or one can say they are multiples of three. one essential three manifesting as many - Three has special significance in Vedanta. - It is stands for phenomenal manifestations - three kaala - past, present and future; three avastha-s, waking, dream and deep sleep; three shariira, gross, subtle and causal bodies, three guNa-s, satva, rajas and tamas, etc. Hence Life is nothing but series of experiences and each experience consists of three ford manifestation involving experiencer, experienced and experiencing - called tripuri - One who transcends that is the Lord. Hence we use three lines on the fore-head - horizontal or vertical and three threads in the yagnopaviitam but all three tied to one knot - brahma muDi. © One and eight together have another significance - 18 is called jayam, the victory. Hence Mahabhaarat is also called Jayam - it contains 18 chapters and has Bhagavad giita with 18 chapters and the war that run for 18 days, ultimately eliminating 18 akshouhiNii-s or battalions. 2. Clock wise rotation. In Geometry the anti-clockwise rotation is called positive, when X is rotated to Y, the Z- points outwards - this is anti-clockwise rotation. This is turning out-ward. For sadhana, we want to turn ourselves inward to our own center Hence clockwise is that which points Z- inwards. 3. Why the right-food forward. Left being where the heart is more emotional center. Right stands for righteousness based on Dharma dictated by ones intellect and not by ones emotions. Right foot forward in the new life is to indicated that dharma one will be committing to follow ones dharma and not get carried away by mere emotions. Dharma being the first and foremost in the purushaartha. Hence it is right to keep right foot forward otherwise we will be bringing the wrong foot forward. ----------- Before one accepts these explanations -here is some thing to ponder. A experimentalist called one who is a close friend and a top-notch theoretician - seeking help to prove some theorem - Giving set of data he said I need a theory that proves A is not equal to B but equal to C where A, B and C represent a set of statements. His theoretician friend struggled for a week and at last called his friend and said I have solved your problem and it was not easy and I have a developed the theory to support your results. But experimentalist friend said - "I am sorry, I gave you wrong information, the results actually are A is equal to B and not equal to C" - But theoretician without any hesitation immediately jumped and said -" hi! that is no problem, I can prove that in no time" Well my friends the above speculations are as good as our theoreticians theories. Hari OM! Sadananda -- K. Sadananda Code 6323 Naval Research Laboratory Washington D.C. 20375 Voice (202)767-2117 Fax:(202)767-2623 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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