Guest guest Posted August 29, 2001 Report Share Posted August 29, 2001 >From Initiation to Illumination by Swami Ashokananda But you see, there is knowledge and knowledge. There can be true knowledge of a relative thing. Suppose we see a tree, we say that we have true knowledge of a tree. Or say, a doctor makes the right diagnosis of a case, then we may say, yes here is true knowledge of the case. But I am not speaking about that kind of true knowledge. I am speaking of the final knowledge, which will never be abrogated. Only one knowledge gives final satisfaction, and that knowledge is through at-onement with that which you are trying to know. All other knowledge is doubtful; it can be replaced by different knowledge. You see, therefore knowledge by reason or through the senses cannot be final knowledge, however seemingly accurate it may appear. True knowledge is where you find everything to be only the divine Spirit and nothing else. When you have that knowledge, that is enlightenment, that is illumination. Commentary: What a wonderful way of making the distinction between relative and absolute knowledge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2001 Report Share Posted August 29, 2001 Namaste! Absolutely true! To those who love Sri Krishna,all is His Leela.All is Sweet Krishna only.Our MIND AND SENSES CANNOT PHYSICALLY SEE Him in every thing,due to limitations.In the Ultimate Geetha (Uddhava Geetha) He tells Udhava to see Him as He is,after transcending the sense perceptions.Sri Krishna alone is Real.The world of sense Perceptions is superimposed on the Reality-Sri Krishna!(Sarwam Krishnamayam!) Deekshneseshvitti Mad Roopam Sankha Chakra Gaddambujai yuktam chaturbhujam saantam dhyayenarchen samaahitah! In every thing, Sun,Earth etc. and in all beings,,-repeat in all beings-- Meditate and Worship equally in all, My beautiful harmonious Form with Conch,Chakram (Divine Discus),Mace,Lotus flower,with Four Hands encompassing all four directions) and absolutely at Peace!. Ananda Sagar --- Vivekananda Centre <vivekananda wrote: > From Initiation to Illumination by Swami Ashokananda > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Messenger http://im. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2001 Report Share Posted August 30, 2001 Namaste, Sri Ramakrishna used a striking metaphor to describe the process: Seeking God is like climbing stairs to reach the treasure of gold on the top of a building. When you find the treasure, you realise that the steps you climbed were also made of gold! Regards, sunder advaitin, BTA SAGAR <btasagar> wrote: > Namaste! Absolutely true! > To those who love Sri Krishna,all is His Leela. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2001 Report Share Posted September 1, 2001 Namaste!Some humble thoughts---- In the Ultimate Geetha,-Amritha or Uddhava Geetha-,the Lord Sri Krishna says: The Lord Created many beings,some with many feet,some with four feet and some with two feet.Of all these beings,the human heart is My favourite dwelling place. In the Human body exists a path based upon Inference(Anumaana) by following which, one can be harmonized(yuktam) with Me,realizing that I am the Cause (hetuh) of everything and the Lord and Controller (Iswara) of all,although I cannot be grasped by this Linga sareera composed of gunaas (body,mind and intellect-BMI). AsyaMam margayantodya,yuktaa hetubhi Ishwaram Guhyamanai gunairlingai agraahyam anumaanayet Look at every cell and every part of "your" body.Who created it?Who is the cause--It is only the Lord! Look at every thing inside you whom you call "me" and every thing outside you --this womder of Universe--who is the Cause?Who Created it?Who is the Controller of every thing ?It is the Lord. Hindu poojas usually include anga pooja,worship with all humility and devotion after giving bath of each Holy part of Lord's Body starting from Feet to the Head after inviting the Lord for offering worship.It is usually done visualizing the Lord in Human Form in the Vigraham or Moorthy of Sri Krishna,Sri Rama or Vishnu or Mother Lakshmi or whoever is one's favourite Deity.Swami Sivananda used to convey that if one can see the real Sanskrit meaning of "Krishna" (which means ALL) one is actually worshipping the feet of all beings as well as "your own",because you see Krishna in all including your divine body which is Holy.Due to the veil ignorance, the ego usurps this holy body and says it is mine or me (deham) and therefore cannot see every one's as well as "your" body as HIS and is fit for worship when illumination dawns and makes us realize all as Krishna, the Divine Wonder! Ananda Sagar --- BTA SAGAR <btasagar wrote: > Namaste! Absolutely true! > To those who love Sri Krishna,all is His Leela.All > is > Sweet Krishna only.Our MIND AND SENSES CANNOT > PHYSICALLY SEE Him in every thing,due to > limitations.In the Ultimate Geetha (Uddhava Geetha) > He > tells Udhava to see Him as He is,after transcending > the sense perceptions.Sri Krishna alone is Real.The > world of sense Perceptions is superimposed on the > Reality-Sri Krishna!(Sarwam Krishnamayam!) > Deekshneseshvitti Mad Roopam Sankha Chakra > Gaddambujai > yuktam chaturbhujam saantam dhyayenarchen > samaahitah! > In every thing, Sun,Earth etc. and in all > beings,,-repeat in all beings-- Meditate and Worship > equally in all, My beautiful harmonious Form with > Conch,Chakram (Divine Discus),Mace,Lotus flower,with > Four Hands encompassing all four directions) and > absolutely at Peace!. > Ananda Sagar > --- Vivekananda Centre <vivekananda > wrote: > > From Initiation to Illumination by Swami > Ashokananda > > > > > > > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant > messaging with Messenger > http://im. > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Messenger http://im. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2001 Report Share Posted September 1, 2001 --- BTA SAGAR <btasagar wrote: > > Namaste!Some humble thoughts---- > In the Ultimate Geetha,-Amritha or Uddhava > Geetha-,the Lord Sri Krishna says: > The Lord Created many beings,some with many > feet,some > with four feet and some with two feet.Of all these > beings,the human heart is My favourite dwelling > place. > > > In the Human body exists a path based upon > Inference(Anumaana) by following which, one can be > harmonized(yuktam) with Me,realizing that I am the > Cause (hetuh) of everything and the Lord and > Controller (Iswara) of all,although I cannot be > grasped by this Linga sareera composed of gunaas > (body,mind and intellect-BMI). > > AsyaMam margayantodya,yuktaa hetubhi Ishwaram > Guhyamanai gunairlingai agraahyam anumaanayet > > Look at every cell and every part of "your" body.Who > created it?Who is the cause--It is only the Lord! > > Look at every thing inside you whom you call "me" > and > every thing outside you --this womder of > Universe--who > is the Cause?Who Created it?Who is the Controller of > every thing ?It is the Lord. > > Hindu poojas usually include anga pooja,worship with > all humility and devotion after giving bath of each > Holy part of Lord's Body starting from Feet to the > Head after inviting the Lord for offering worship.It > is usually done visualizing the Lord in Human Form > in > the Vigraham or Moorthy of Sri Krishna,Sri Rama or > Vishnu or Mother Lakshmi or whoever is one's > favourite > Deity.Swami Sivananda used to convey that if one can > see the real Sanskrit meaning of "Krishna" (which > means ALL) one is actually worshipping the feet of > all > beings as well as "your own",because you see Krishna > in all including your divine body which is Holy.Due > to > the veil ignorance, the ego usurps this holy body > and > says it is mine or me (deham) and therefore cannot > see every one's as well as "your" body as HIS and is > > fit for worship until illumination dawns and makes us > realize all as Krishna, the Divine Wonder! > Ananda Sagar > > > > > --- BTA SAGAR <btasagar wrote: > > Namaste! Absolutely true! > > To those who love Sri Krishna,all is His Leela.All > > is > > Sweet Krishna only.Our MIND AND SENSES CANNOT > > PHYSICALLY SEE Him in every thing,due to > > limitations.In the Ultimate Geetha (Uddhava > Geetha) > > He > > tells Udhava to see Him as He is,after > transcending > > the sense perceptions.Sri Krishna alone is > Real.The > > world of sense Perceptions is superimposed on the > > Reality-Sri Krishna!(Sarwam Krishnamayam!) > > Deekshneseshvitti Mad Roopam Sankha Chakra > > Gaddambujai > > yuktam chaturbhujam saantam dhyayenarchen > > samaahitah! > > In every thing, Sun,Earth etc. and in all > > beings,,-repeat in all beings-- Meditate and > Worship > > equally in all, My beautiful harmonious Form with > > Conch,Chakram (Divine Discus),Mace,Lotus > flower,with > > Four Hands encompassing all four directions) and > > absolutely at Peace!. > > Ananda Sagar > > --- Vivekananda Centre > <vivekananda > > wrote: > > > From Initiation to Illumination by Swami > > Ashokananda > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant > > messaging with Messenger > > http://im. > > > > > > > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant > messaging with Messenger > http://im. > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Messenger http://im. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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