Guest guest Posted October 28, 2001 Report Share Posted October 28, 2001 advaitin, sunderh wrote: >All sciences are endangered by the > 'asuric' [non-divine] elements in humanity; even 'yoga'! Namaste Shri Sunder-Ji, Do you hint at the mis-use of this knowledge ? I myself often ponder on this issue. I feel that misuse of any knowledge is itself an issue to be tackled via the vedic knowledge. I feel a comprehensive understanding of Dharma would play an important role in this respect. Best regards Shrinivas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2001 Report Share Posted October 29, 2001 Namaste Shrinivasji: Here is my understanding of the on going discussion. Somehow you seem to separate 'cause' and 'effect' which are inseparable. Also, 'action' and 'result' are in separable. When we are aware of our true divine nature, the understanding of human Dharma and practicing it become automatic. The sages of Upanishads have stated beautifuly: "Life is a bridge, enjoy while crossing, don't build any castle!" Learning (whether apara or para vidya) has to be tuned during our living. In subtle terms, yoga brings such an awareness, it has to happen without us forcing or seeking. It is just like the butterfly, while seeking, we can't catch a butterfly, but if we sit quietly, it will just come and sit on us! regards, Ram Chandran advaitin, sgadkari2001 wrote: > I feel a comprehensive understanding of Dharma > would play an important role in this respect. > > Best regards > Shrinivas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2001 Report Share Posted October 29, 2001 Namaskaram to Shri. Ramachandran Beautiful. I think you have got the spirit of it. Madhavan >Namaste Shrinivasji: > >Here is my understanding of the on going discussion. Somehow you seem >to separate 'cause' and 'effect' which are inseparable. Also, 'action' >and 'result' are in separable. When we are aware of our true divine >nature, the understanding of human Dharma and practicing it become >automatic. The sages of Upanishads have stated beautifuly: >"Life is a bridge, enjoy while crossing, don't build any castle!" > >Learning (whether apara or para vidya) has to be tuned during our >living. In subtle terms, yoga brings such an awareness, it has to >happen without us forcing or seeking. It is just like the butterfly, >while seeking, we can't catch a butterfly, but if we sit quietly, it >will just come and sit on us! > >regards, > >Ram Chandran _______________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2001 Report Share Posted October 29, 2001 Namaste Shri Ramchandran-Ji, Your posting is indeed well worded and I completely agree with you. This is definitely the highest yoga that is also all inclusive. If one can perfect this practice that is it. I never had any difference of opinion in this matter. What I am trying to say stems from the fact that this yoga of being established in the Self cannot be practised by all. Even those who are able to practise it, will face many day-to-day situations when they will either not be able to practise it or might forget to do so. I feel the number of people who are really close to perfection in this yoga will be really small. This is the only reason why, in my opinion, we should also seek Vedic sciences which adopt an indirect approch to yoga. An approach that people find easier to adopt. The price that we pay is that it is a long cut as far as the goal of Self is concerned. The idea is take the direct route whenever possible. At other times take the longer, indirect route. Best regards Shrinivas advaitin, "Ram Chandran" <rchandran@c...> wrote: > Namaste Shrinivasji: > > Here is my understanding of the on going discussion. Somehow you seem > to separate 'cause' and 'effect' which are inseparable. Also, 'action' > and 'result' are in separable. When we are aware of our true divine > nature, the understanding of human Dharma and practicing it become > automatic. The sages of Upanishads have stated beautifuly: > "Life is a bridge, enjoy while crossing, don't build any castle!" > > Learning (whether apara or para vidya) has to be tuned during our > living. In subtle terms, yoga brings such an awareness, it has to > happen without us forcing or seeking. It is just like the butterfly, > while seeking, we can't catch a butterfly, but if we sit quietly, it > will just come and sit on us! > > regards, > > Ram Chandran > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2001 Report Share Posted November 22, 2001 Dear All , I feel sorry for such a late reply on this discussion .. Anyway i will try to put my view and get cleared . - "Ram Chandran" <rchandran <advaitin> Monday, October 29, 2001 4:20 PM Re: chandogya upanishad vi.3.2 > Namaste Shrinivasji: > > Here is my understanding of the on going discussion. Somehow you seem > to separate 'cause' and 'effect' which are inseparable. Also, 'action' > and 'result' are in separable. From my view , there is no such thing as action and result . Everything is Cause and Effect . There cannot be a action without a cause , also a result without a cause . Action and Result may be a Effect of two different (!) causes . So it seems to be seperable . Let me try to give a example . Say two people A and B meditate on god . This is the action . Actually Effect of some good thing they have done in the past . The result , A may realize god , B may not . This may be a Effect of some other action ( ?? ) of their own . So All comes under cause and Effect . Hope i didn't confuse , and i am correct , please feel free to reply to this , also correct me if i am wrong . thanks umapathy _______ Get your free @ address at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2001 Report Share Posted November 22, 2001 advaitin, "umapathy" <umapathy_19> wrote: > From my view , there is no such thing as action and result . Everything > is Cause and Effect . There cannot be a action without a cause , also a > result without a cause . Action and Result may be a Effect of two different > (!) causes . So it seems to be seperable . > > Let me try to give a example . > > Say two people A and B meditate on god . This is the action . Actually > Effect of some good thing they have done in the past . The result , A may > realize god , B may not . This may be a Effect of some other action > ( ?? ) of their own . So All comes under cause and Effect . > > Hope i didn't confuse , and i am correct , please feel free to reply to this > , also correct me if i am wrong . > Namaste Shri Umapathi-Ji, Everything is Cause and Effect is a valid point of view and is not opposed to Action and Result point of view. Personally I prefer the Cause - Effect point of view. Best regards Shrinivas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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