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>Namaskar to all,

>

>I am interested in Jnana Yoga sadhana and have read a little about

>advaita. However the more i read the more I am confused about which

>teacher to follow. As of now I am more drawn towards the following :

>

>1. Traditional Vedantatic sadhana as exemplified by Gita,

>Chinmayananda etc.

>

>2. Aurobindo's Integral Yoga

>

>3. Ramana Maharshi's Atma Vichara.

>

>Is it advisable to stick to one form of sadhana or can one integrate

>or synthesise various different methods? Also I have understood the

>vital importance of the concept of 'surrender'. But whom to surrender?

>I am equally drawn at various times to different masters. This is

>creating confusion.

>

>Can the learned members of the group guide me?

>

>amaresh.

 

Shree Amaresh - you have yearning mind. That is all that is needed.

Do not worry about different masters and to whom you have to

surrender. They all point to the same thing. Just have an open mind

and surrender yourself to your ishTa devata or the form of the Lord

that appeals to your heart and surrender your self to that Lard -

taking that Lord's name. Study the scriptures with ruthless

discrimination - until you have clear understanding of the scriptures

Taking all guru-s as His manifestations. He will show you the right

path that is conducive to your heart. Ultimately Guru is the Lord

within. You yourself will discover the right guru at the right time.

The flower need not go in search of a bee, the bee shall come

provided the flower is intelligent enough to open itself with full

bloom. That is the Law of Nature.

 

Hari Om!

Sadananda

--

K. Sadananda

Code 6323

Naval Research Laboratory

Washington D.C. 20375

Voice (202)767-2117

Fax:(202)767-2623

 

 

 

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Namaskar to all,

 

I am interested in Jnana Yoga sadhana and have read a little about

advaita. However the more i read the more I am confused about which

teacher to follow. As of now I am more drawn towards the following :

 

1. Traditional Vedantatic sadhana as exemplified by Gita,

Chinmayananda etc.

 

2. Aurobindo's Integral Yoga

 

3. Ramana Maharshi's Atma Vichara.

 

Is it advisable to stick to one form of sadhana or can one integrate

or synthesise various different methods? Also I have understood the

vital importance of the concept of 'surrender'. But whom to surrender?

I am equally drawn at various times to different masters. This is

creating confusion.

 

Can the learned members of the group guide me?

 

amaresh.

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shri ksadanand jee

namaskar

u r perfectly right

nkbali

 

On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 K. Sadananda wrote :

> >Namaskar to all,

> >

> >I am interested in Jnana Yoga sadhana and have read

> a  little about

> >advaita. However the more i read the more I am

> confused about which

> >teacher to follow. As of now I am more drawn

> towards the following :

> >

> >1. Traditional Vedantatic sadhana  as

> exemplified by Gita,

> >Chinmayananda etc.

> >

> >2. Aurobindo's Integral Yoga

> >

> >3. Ramana Maharshi's Atma Vichara.

> >

> >Is it advisable to stick to one form of sadhana or

> can one integrate

> >or synthesise various different methods? Also I

> have understood the

> >vital importance of the concept of 'surrender'. But

> whom to surrender?

> >I am equally drawn at various times to different

> masters. This is

> >creating confusion.

> >

> >Can the learned members of the group guide me?

> >

> >amaresh.

> Shree Amaresh - you have yearning mind.  That is

> all that is needed.

> Do not worry about different masters and to whom you

> have to

> surrender.  They all point to the same thing. 

> Just have an open mind

> and surrender yourself to your ishTa devata or the form

> of the Lord

> that appeals to your heart and surrender your self to

> that Lard -

> taking that Lord's name.  Study the scriptures

> with ruthless

> discrimination - until you have clear understanding of

> the scriptures

> Taking all guru-s as His manifestations.  He will

> show you the right

> path that is conducive to your heart.  Ultimately

> Guru is the Lord

> within.  You yourself will discover the right guru

> at the right time.

> The flower need not go in search of a bee, the bee

> shall come

> provided the flower is intelligent enough to open

> itself with full

> bloom. That is the Law of Nature.

> Hari Om!

> Sadananda

> --

> K. Sadananda

> Code 6323

> Naval Research Laboratory

> Washington D.C. 20375

> Voice (202)767-2117

> Fax:(202)767-2623

>

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Learned Fellow Members,

 

Please be patient with this first posting...

 

I believe that Sankara advises that to reach the self there is no such

thing as a "means" or a "path". A path can be valid only when there is a

distance to be travelled. Since the "to-be-reached" and the "reacher"

are the same indivisible self, there really cannot be a path. All paths

are only intermediate means, to quiet and discipline the mind.

 

With that thought, any path that quiets, strengthens, and prepares the

student's mind is a valid and valuable path. Yoga is simply any action

done with the right frame of mind (that being a frame of mind free of

expectation, free of thoughts of "me" or "mine"). This is the essence of

surrender -- surrendering to the Lord, and thus performing ones actions

in worship of or as a worhip unto that Lord. Such actions prepare the

mind for the teaching.

 

All teaching is lost on an ill-prepared mind. Once the mind is clear and

seeking, the teacher will arrive, and the teaching will enter straight

inside.

 

This is my understanding.

 

Wayne Malkin

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Malkin, Wayne <wmalkin

 

A small clarification/comment!

> I believe that Sankara advises that to reach the self there is no such

> thing as a "means" or a "path". A path can be valid only when there is a

> distance to be travelled. Since the "to-be-reached" and the "reacher"

> are the same indivisible self, there really cannot be a path. All paths

> are only intermediate means, to quiet and discipline the mind.

 

As long as one does not come to the realization that the "to-be-reached" and

the "reacher"

are the same indivisible self, there is a distance to be travelled. That

distance is to be travelled by the "reacher". When one travels- one travels

"a path".

While you have begun by stating that there is no path- you continue on to

describe a path!! -"quietening and disciplining the mind " is the path!!

and once you have done that you have travelled the distance and the

"to-be-reached" and the "reacher" become one and the same!!

> With that thought, any path that quiets, strengthens, and prepares the

> student's mind is a valid and valuable path. Yoga is simply any action

> done with the right frame of mind (that being a frame of mind free of

> expectation, free of thoughts of "me" or "mine"). This is the essence of

> surrender -- surrendering to the Lord, and thus performing ones actions

> in worship of or as a worhip unto that Lord. Such actions prepare the

> mind for the teaching.

>

> All teaching is lost on an ill-prepared mind. Once the mind is clear and

> seeking, the teacher will arrive, and the teaching will enter straight

> inside.

 

This "teaching" and "teacher" that you describe above is the final

realization that the "to-be-reached" and the "reacher"

are the same indivisible self??

 

Regards

Geetha

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>Learned Fellow Members,

>

>Please be patient with this first posting...

>

>

>This is my understanding.

>

>Wayne Malkin

 

Shree Wayne Malkin - Greetings. Your first posting is full with

clear understanding. God bless you. Members will benefit by sharing

your understanding.

 

Hari OM!

Sadananda

--

K. Sadananda

Code 6323

Naval Research Laboratory

Washington D.C. 20375

Voice (202)767-2117

Fax:(202)767-2623

 

 

 

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