Guest guest Posted December 6, 2001 Report Share Posted December 6, 2001 --- "Madhava K. Turumella" <madhava wrote: > So I suggest that you rather continue posting >directly to the list and let all the members read. > Then let us discuss. dont worry about semantics. Hari OM and Greetings to all fellow members. I am advised to post the summary and here it is starting with the first chapter. The structure of each posting "A-B-C-D" is as follows: Part A: Synopsis So far (except this first one where there will be a brief intro) Part B: Chapter Summary Part C: What comes after this posting - in brief Part D: My own Queries if any. Summary of Swami Ashokaananda (RK Mutt Order)Book on "The Soul's Journey to its destiny" published by Advaita Ashrama, Himalayas OM Namo Narayana! Part A: Intro: Swami Ashokananda was in charge of Vedanta Society from 1932 till his Samadhi in 1969. The book is an edited version of his lectures in 1953 at San Francisco. The book explains the vedantic concept of the origin of human being , his constitution, the causes behind his present state of existence, his development, and his ultimate fulfillment. Many of the theoratical aspects of Vedanta and their practical application to everyday life are well explained. The 8 chapters are as below: 1) What makes a man 2) The mysterious ways of the mind. 3) Why we are what we are 4) The Soul's journey to its destiny 5) The birth and death of ego 6) The unconscious and the superconscious 7) Significance and importance of the conscious mind 8) "Kundalini" & the awakening of Higher Consciousness Part B: WHAT MAKES A MAN Man is made up of 3 entities: Body, Mind and Spirit. Human Body is not only matter but also subject to change around it such as temperature, pressure etc (within a narrow range). The origin of the body is from parents. But mind itself is not derived from parents; otherwise there would be no change in the mind during all the generations in a family tree. Mind is of 2 parts- conscious and unconscious. Soul or spirit is Jivatma. Then how is that these 3 separate elements (Body matter, mind and spirit) come together? While the universal soul or God is pure, the jivatma being associated and dependent on Body matter and mind has some kind of weakness or limitations unlike universal soul which has no limitations. This contradiction is Maya or avidya. It is this involvement that gives a sense of self identity. The soul also is not derived from parents but from Godhood. So again, how is that these 3 are together? Where does the soul come from and where does it go when the body "expires"? What then happens to the mind? Does it also expire or does it go with the individual soul? So what are we-humans- The spirit or mind or Body? To explain the man's body we need to explain the origin of "matter". Then it becomes a metaphyscial explanation. Consciousness (caitanya) is a principle that does not require to be proved, but is itself the proof of everything else i.e. it is self existent. e.g. Sun does need a candle to be seen, its own light reveals it and illumines other things as well. There is a principle of parallelism between the individual and universal. In the world of matter there are many little islands of matter which are both autonomous and interdependent e.g. body & matter external to it. Similarly relationship between life and soul has its own autonomy. This means a relationship between subject and object, if the subject is individual and the object is the universe. So in "one-sided" versions of philosophy the subject controls the object. e.g.God made this world, he put life into it, he made mind, he made man-end of story. i.e. you explain man as a product of external process. This means there is no autonomy. The Vednatic view is different. It is based on autonomy and parallelism. First there is this Universal spirit or all pervading consciousness " Nirguna Brahma (NB)", which is limitless, infinite, undifferentiated and absolute consciousness. It can be spoken of only negatively- "not this, not this". If you don't, you are starting with a part. Next step is Isvara (Lord/ ruler). This is made up of infinite number of efflugent souls, even before creation has started. All this process is "as it were" (iva), not really happening. This assumption is important because "infinite" cannot be broken up and counted. This is then a degradation or transformation or dilution. This "as it were" principle develops into maya or avidya resulting eventually into an objective world with apparent plurality, divison and variety. The objective world consists of 5 senses, which are themselves from 5 principles (panchaboothas). Ether (Akasa), Air, Fire, water and earth. From this mixture of 5 principles, several things come about. On the subject side it is Intelligence, Mind, Ego, Sense of perception, sense of action etc. On the objects side, there are objects and matter as perceived by the subject's senses. Now between body and spirit (which is consciousness) there is mind which is partly allied into the knower and partly with the knowable. due to maya, there is one universal cosmic intelligence, cosmic mind and cosmic vitality (prana). So from isvara we come to next stage "Sutrama" or thread soul or Hiranyagharba (golden womb). The concrete world is still in the womb. All this happens with the absolute consciousness (NB) still being there- not gone because it is all "as it were". The next level of dilution or degradation is gross universe or "virat" (the vast one). Simultaneously the individual souls formed at "isvara" stage now become "visva" (the whole). By this it is meant, that which is contained in the vast universe is also contained in the individual; the idea of macrocasm and microcasm. There is the principle of parallelism operating here. In the final stage, the body matter, mind and soul become individuals but then how can 3 dissimilar principles come together? It is possible in a dream, in illusion where everything is possible. So where does the soul come from and where does it go? This is explained by reincarnation. The soul associated with the mind, departs this body goes to the "other" side, waits and again gets into a physical body matter. To conclude: There is no true objective world. All things are related to your own condition. You have a choice of being gross with its identification with the material world or realize yourself and be spiritual. Part C: What all comes next: How our mind works and operates, What is the reason for different people having different lifestyles and fortunes even if we are from one origin, How does the soul exactly move about from start to finish, What is the role of ego or self identity, What are unconscious and superconscious parts of the mind and how it is linked to one mind in the universe, Why we should focus on conscious mind as first step towards purification and Finally an empiriacl and practical "demo" of all these principles, in our own body via "Kundalini" yoga. This and much more to follow.. (excuse me- I cannot hide my marketing backgound) Part D: Personal queries (not from the book) 1) Was all this knowledge "revaled" in one go like Koran or was it in small doses in different Vedas and then edited by "Vyasa" in vedanta? 2)The whole theory hangs on one major assumption "as it were". What is the proof? 3) Did Hindus start with this theory which is really mind blowing or did it evolve from previous theories? Hari OM and thanks for your patience. My aplogies for any typing mistakes or errors in grammar. P.B.V.Rajan E-mail: rajanpbv (Prathivadhi Bayankaram Varadha Rajan) Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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