please note it is a very basic question from a novist

[Guest guest]

Dear All,

 

May thanks to Shree Sadanandaji for a compashenate answer and others

who have given me a lot of explanation for the question I posted.

 

I have this confusion and that is I have a small family, a lovely

child and blessed with good parents. I have a desnt job and a

resonable salary to provide for. I also have the small troubles of

the normal human feelings of desire, anger and so on. Also I have the

good feelings ot doing good to others, helping and so on.

 

I see the reason to pray to God more of a thanking him for all the

wonderful things he has given me. And I am very greatful to him for

blessing me with all this.

 

I also love all the other things in the world like music, alchaol and

so on. Though I am not a alchalolist I like drinking but then purely

because others tell it is not good I dont drink frequently.

 

I also like to have a intelectual persute of differnt topicks of the

world.

 

It looks to me that I am perfectly in harmany as a normal being. When

this be it what is the need for me to peruad Advaith whihc give the

impression that it is difficult and the most trouble some of all is

the feeling that I will not be born in this world as I enjoy being

born and living in this world.

 

I am confused. Some times I have no clue why I want to learn so I

spend time in learining Advaith but at other times I dont feel like

learning. I am not able to get a grasp of what is the reasen.

 

My learned members can you please tell me why I feel this way?. And

is there some thing wrong in me?.

 

I am confused.

 

OM Sri Ganashya Namaha.

 

Ranga

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I am confused. Some times I have no clue why I want to learn so I

spend time in learining Advaith but at other times I dont feel like

learning. I am not able to get a grasp of what is the reasen.

 

 

Dear sir,

 

I would like to emphasize a fact that a Guru is very necessary in the

matters such as Advaitha etc.

 

Advaitha cannot be learnt from books,cds etc.

 

So please have this feeling that advaitha can't be learnt admist this

world..

 

People might quote examples like Janaka ..Who was self realised although he

was leading a kingdom & he had a family too..

 

Self realisation is not an easy task

 

The first and last thing i am telling if you are very sincere to realise the

self then go to a proper guru

else if u are in the level of highest sincereity the Guru will before u in

no time

 

Jayatu Jayatu Nityam chandrachudoh gururnah

 

Regards

 

Kamesh B

[Guest guest]

> I am confused.

>

> OM Sri Ganashya Namaha.

>

> Ranga

 

_______________

Namaste Ranga,

'Confusion' is an excellent place to be as

there is the rajas necessary to be in action. What is

this action? As with Arjuna, give yourself time to be

still. For in a paradoxical way stillness is action.

When the fluttering mind settles allow a question to

arise from deep within yourself, not the chattering

head-voice of the daily thoughts but one more from

your heart. Let the question settle and listen for an

answer. Let discrimination dismiss irrelevant thoughts

that may arise. Let the Self be a friend of yourself

for you have no greater friend; out of the initial

silence it is possible to begin to listen. Once you

hear the voice 'within' you will find it easier to

find the good company that is so abundant in the world

and the unnecessary company will fall from you like

water from the lotus flower.

This is a simple exercise but it all a play of the

gunas and the rajas of confusion is the opportunity to

allow sattva to dominate. If this is not done then

naturally tamas has to take its turn and the

opportunity passes.

May the Lord's blessing be with us all in our efforts,

Om sri ram jai jai ram

Ken Knight

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

>

> Dear sir,

>

> I would like to emphasize a fact that a Guru is very necessary in

the

> matters such as Advaitha etc.

>

 

Dear Sir,

 

I see the importance and I think I missed this essential element in

my process of learning. I will strive to find a Guru and as you said

I am sure it will happen to me at the right time. I fully agree that

it cannot be done at a intelectual level as we will never be able to

experience it.

 

I rember an explanation given by a dancer on the interpration of a

dance performance in which Lord Subramanias lover sends a friend as a

messenger to the Lord. The implied meaning is that if we need to know

the Lord we will need a messenger and the messenger is Guru. I really

relished the beautiful explanation but then I furgot to apply it in

my religious learning.

 

Thank you very much.

 

Oh Namo Narayana.

Ranga

[Guest guest]

>

>It looks to me that I am perfectly in harmany as a normal being. When

>this be it what is the need for me to peruad Advaith whihc give the

>impression that it is difficult and the most trouble some of all is

>the feeling that I will not be born in this world as I enjoy being

>born and living in this world.

>

>I am confused. Some times I have no clue why I want to learn so I

>spend time in learining Advaith but at other times I dont feel like

>learning. I am not able to get a grasp of what is the reasen.

 

Shree Ranga

 

If you are in perfect harmony, you have indeed accomplished what need

to be accomplished. There is no need to pursue advaita, which

cannot be pursued anyway, and Vedanta is definitely not for you. It

is only for those who feel inadequate even after having a good

family, good salary and decent amount of alcohol. It is only for

those who want to know what all this means - why should I be born and

struggle through to get what I need to make me feel happy. So my

friend, if you do not feel that need, you may be just wasting your

time trying to learn which is difficult to learn. Definitely you seem

to feel better of enjoying what is given to you and pray that those

things that you enjoy keep coming uninterruptively.

 

I had one student who asked me once - what is wrong sadaji to be

unhappy once in a way. In contrast that makes the happy state

happier. My response was there is definitely nothing wrong being

unhappy once in a way as along as one is happy about it!

 

Vedanta is only for who are longing for something more than what this

life can give.

 

When Newton was asking the question "why does an apple fall down?" -

A passerby was puzzled by the question - why are you unnecessarily

worried about why apple falls down. It always falls down. You don't

need some meaningless equations to tell us that apple falls down. It

has been doing this since time immemorial with or without the help of

these unnecessary complicated equations and it will continue to do

so? Why bother about it and just enjoy the apple be done with it?

That is what the apple is meant for - to eat and enjoy and not to

worry about why it falls down? - But Newton was not happy just to sit

down and enjoy that apple and more worried to understand why it falls

down. For him answering that question was sweeter than just eating

that apple that fell down.

 

See my fried, Vedanta is the science of life. It inquires the very

purpose of this very life itself. One can go through the life without

worrying about what is life all about? Human is endowed with

intellect and it is the very purpose of the intellect to inquire the

cause for everything. What makes a human being different from the

rest of the life forms is only this - he is endowed by the rational

intellect - it cannot but ask the question of why. Answer is needed

only when the question is raised. Otherwise Vedanta has no role and

I agree with you it is just waste of time until that time comes when

the intellect starts asking the question of Why.

 

Hari Om!

Sadananda

 

 

 

 

>

>My learned members can you please tell me why I feel this way?. And

>is there some thing wrong in me?.

>

>I am confused.

>

>OM Sri Ganashya Namaha.

>

>Ranga

>

--

K. Sadananda

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Naval Research Laboratory

Washington D.C. 20375

Voice (202)767-2117

Fax:(202)767-2623

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Sri Sadanadaji,

 

Thanks for the mail. It looks I have upset you, rather irritated you

sorry if I did.

 

I add nothing more but I would definitely tell you that this message

harts me.

 

Om Sri Ganapathya Namaha.

Ranga

[Guest guest]

 

sambasivam2000 [sambasivam2000]

Tuesday, December 11, 2001 7:19 AM

advaitin

Re: please note it is a very basic question from a

novist

 

 

Dear Sri Sadanadaji,

 

Thanks for the mail. It looks I have upset you, rather irritated you

sorry if I did.

 

I add nothing more but I would definitely tell you that this message

harts me.

 

Om Sri Ganapathya Namaha.

Ranga

************************************

Sri Sadaji is saying something very meaningful and you need not take it

personally. Advaita Vedanta points to the highest aim in life and that is

Self-Realization. A person who is ready has an overwhelming and spontaneous

inner quest and a strong intuitive understanding that this is the right

approach.

 

Satsangh is most helpful. So welcome Sri Ranga.

 

Love to all

Harsha

[Guest guest]

On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, sambasivam2000 wrote:

> Dear All,

>

> [...]

>

> It looks to me that I am perfectly in harmany as a normal being. When

> this be it what is the need for me to peruad Advaith whihc give the

> impression that it is difficult and the most trouble some of all is

> the feeling that I will not be born in this world as I enjoy being

> born and living in this world.

>

> I am confused. Some times I have no clue why I want to learn so I

> spend time in learining Advaith but at other times I dont feel like

> learning. I am not able to get a grasp of what is the reasen.

>

> My learned members can you please tell me why I feel this way?. And

> is there some thing wrong in me?.

>

> I am confused.

>

> OM Sri Ganashya Namaha.

>

> Ranga

>

 

namaste shri Ranga-ji,

 

You say in your first mail that you feel happy and contented all

the time and you question why study advaita. In your next mail,

you say you are hurt by what I think is a very meaningful and

helpful advice by shri Sadanandaji.

 

If one feels hurt in such a simple situation, obviously in my view,

your association with body-mind complex is deep. It also shows that

the happiness and contentment which you feel as expressed in your

first post in this thread is not a result of the supreme Knowledge,

but is due to not experiencing the other side of happiness. Your

second post shows that you need disassociation from such feelings

of happiness and sorrows.

 

May I suggest the book SELF UNFOLDMENT by swami Chinmayanandaji

as a starter.

 

Regards

Gummuluru Murthy

--

[Guest guest]

Dear Shree Ranga,

Greetings.

 

Let me try to answer the best I can.

 

Any person lives with a unique relationship with

various other people such as Spouse, Children,

Parents, etc.

It is every person's intention to bring the best out

of each relationship, although many times we rough it

out. How does one bring about the best from oneself

and from others? Is it by material means ? If that is

so, kings must be the happiest and clearly they are

not. By what other means while we are living here ?

 

Upanishads say that, 'a person loves his spouse not

because she is his spouse but because of the Divine in

the spouse'. Same applies to any person in any

relationship.

 

Without some form of this attitude from Upanishads,

one cannot derive happiness even out of a casual

relationship. And, how does one know more about such ?

It is from none other than the Scriptures such as the

Upanishads. What do Upanishads teach ? It is about

manifesting the Divine. How does one manifest the

Divine ? ...There the sequence goes...

 

Kind Regards,

Raghava

 

 

 

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--- "K. Sadananda" <sada wrote:

(in response to shri Ranga's posting)

> >It looks to me that I am perfectly in harmany as a

> >normal being. = Shree Ranga

> If you are in perfect harmony, you have indeed

> accomplished what need to be accomplished.

> Vedanta is only for who are longing for something

> more than what this life can give.

> Answer is needed only when the question is raised.

 

 

I think Shri Sadanandji's response is appropriate in

the sense Vedanta is not common man's breakfast and

not also all the time. I want to give my personal

example. In mid 80s Swami Chinmayananda visited Kuwait

and spent over a month. I had his darshan there but

honestly no vibrations were felt by me although I was

one of the regulars in the weekly satsangh. After

nearly 15 years, I developed a great mental

attachment to one of his first batch of disciples

Swamini Sharadananda through her disciple Shri Madhav.

Only then I started reading about Vedanta. It has

taken me more than 2 years of continous search to even

grasp the "fundas" or the concept behind advaita till

I read the book by Swami Ashokananda. I am sure that

this book may not excite many others because they have

not yet started the search or at adifferent level.

 

In spiritutal matters it is conceivable that everyone

is at different levels of progress. On the otherhand,

at religious levels, all of us may be practising the

same religion and functions. There is thus a subtle

difference between just being identified as a "good

Hindu (or whatever)" as probably Mr. Ranga does and

being a student of Vednata and adavaita for which a

different frame of mind is required. None of my

parents or grand parents even at old age, took up

study of Vednata. Infact even my mother recently

became angry when I recommended her to study Vedanta

saying "I do not give up my attachments". In this

respect, I think the observation in Swami

Ashokananda's book that this body is from parents but

not the mind, appealed to me as soon as I read it. For

all you know, Mr. Ranga, your child may turn out to be

the Top most Vednatin in the world! I only say may be-

in case you conisder that less than desirable.

Pranams and Hari OM

P.B.V.Rajan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Ranga,

 

Sadanandji has given a great reply. I think we should take it in a positive

way. To add to that I would say, before starting of any new feild, we should

first convince ourself of its need. This is esp true in case of vedanta. We

have to spend considerable amount of time to convince ourself of its necessity,

Because Vedanta cannot be praticed to please others, this is true for any feild

but still compared to vedanta some other feilds we can manage. Like to please

my mother I became doctor like that, but in case of vedanta this cannot be

done. If we are not convinced ourself of vedanta no amount of external force

can make us to think that way and if we are convinced of vedanta no amount of

external force can pull us back to materialistic world. We cannot take up

vedanta b'cos my parents said or freinds said. And if we don't spend time to

know its real need and directly jump to the Advaitic texts means it will add to

complications and it will truly create confusions as we have missed basics.

 

There are quite a lot of material which really discusses about this basic

question, Why God is needed? Why vedanta is needed? I would prefer yu to go

through those, the best I have is read is some of lectures of Vivekananda. We

should remember one thing, the so called happiness we say in this materialist

world are not true happiness. Most of this happiness is out of ignorance as we

can clearly see, the state of happiness we are experiencing now is not eternal.

But our true nature is eternal bliss. And it is our birth right to go for that

and one who doesn't try for that and thinks what ever he is experiencing in

this world is ultimate happiness is deceiving himself. So Vedanta helps us to

find our true nature which we many a times we ignore.

 

sarvam vasudevamayam jagath

Prashanth

--- sambasivam2000 <sambasivam2000 wrote:

> Dear Sri Sadanadaji,

>

> Thanks for the mail. It looks I have upset you, rather irritated you

> sorry if I did.

>

> I add nothing more but I would definitely tell you that this message

> harts me.

>

> Om Sri Ganapathya Namaha.

> Ranga

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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Dear All,

 

Namaskaras to all of you and would seek the blessings of the learned

scholars in my pursuit of learning Advatha.

 

My apologies to shri Sadanandaji, as it looks I over reacted but then

I should say he has achieved the task of making me restless!!! but

then it looks God has given me the strength to pursue, which I will.

 

It is true that unless we experience a better happiness we will

deceive our selves to believe the current state we are in is the

best. I have been reading various philosophical approaches for many a

year and did feel the progress in me. I was once into JK philosophy a

method of enquiry which I did relish, but then the moment I read his

Autobiography by Puple Jayakar my perception of his completely

changed and then I dropped the doctrine. I had been a atheist for

many a years but then I was not able to be without God or thinking

about him for I don't know why and then I gave up being a atheist. It

was not ethical for me to say some thing and be some thing else

within. But the doubt of existence of God persisted and once when I

attended a Geeth class in Bahrain, I was forced to raise the issue.

It became a taboo for many but then a learned scholar called me and

gave me 5 cassettes of Swami Chinmayananda and that transformed my

knowledge and brought in the conviction in God.

 

I say the above only to tell some of the learned members that I am

serious about the learning and am not wasting all your time if some

of you so feel.

 

My approach to learning vadanta stems from the same root, on one hand

we have a role and responsibility in this world for which the created

and the associated difficulties which are a part of our karma. The

shear principle of cause and effect.

 

Now given this scenario we have understand that the effect is there

and the rebirth is assured purely because of the constitution of the

body and mind which inherently will tend to make mistakes, and so the

cycle seems to be end-less. I keep getting confused then I think of

this principle, when I try to attribute the character of the creator

who is all loving, all caring and so on. When this be His nature and

when He also knows that there is a higher state of consciousness

which we can reach, it looks illogical for me to think that he will

place me in this endless cycle of birth and death given His nature

that he is all loving and all caring. So he is the one who

irrespective of the state we are in will enlighten us. So if I look

at this way what is the logic of our efforts in vadantha keeping

aside the intellectual intoxication we get out of it. The

intoxication we get out of expressing our scholarly understanding of

the scriptures or the intoxication we get out of talking of the

finite and the infinite. I say the concept of Maya is beautiful, when

we use the analogy of the reflection of the Sun on a thousand broken

glasses and the sun being one. I also understand fully the concept of

the reason of Maya, compared to other concepts of creation, like if

we take the some concepts of creating when we say the mud is taken

and God blew the air init and it became alive but then when we move

to the level of questioning where did the mud come from there is no

answer and the treatment of maya seems to be a more convincing

proposition to me.

 

But then all this is at a intellectual plane but then when we

associate the fundamental aspect of God and superimpose our effort or

no effort in it I see whatever be the approach taken irrespective of

the efforts we put in he will make us reach salvation. Then why the

effort.

 

But when I had a question , question in my mind which was simple and

that was when the world ends any way all of us become a part of Him

and so any way we reach the stage of mukthi!!, but my reading gave me

an answer and that was the people who or not enlightened will be

recreated when the world is recreated.

 

Now all this is a intellectual discussion one can have but the

question remains that could live in harmony with what we have and in

that aspect Advatha only puts more doubts in my mind, confuses me

more but if I take it as a intellectual proposition I have no

problems. But then I cannot do that and then I am into more and more

confusion all the time and with more questions with no answers.

 

Many a times my questions asked only gives many a reader the view

that I am a irresponsible, careless human being with no firm

conviction of any thing.

 

When such be the doubts and questions in my mind and the most

fundamental question being why vadanta, a firm answer does not seems

to emerge in my mind.

 

I will ask this forum this question continually till such time the

Porum perceives me to be an annoyance and throws me out.

 

I only write this mail as I feel some or all of the members could be

either feeling that I am too low in the level or not too serious.

 

IF MY APPROACH IS WRONG I REQUEST THE MODERATER TO CORRECT ME AND

WILL ABIDE BY THE NORMS OF THE GROUP.

 

Oh Sri Ganashya Namaha.

Ranga

[Guest guest]

Namaste Rangaji

 

Perhaps you can let the list know in which country you are staying in. So

that the members can suggest any organisation or teacher living around your

area to whom you can approach to remove your doubts abou Advaita Vedanta.

 

Let me share my experience. Initially when I got introduced to Advaita I was

totally fascinated by its concepts and I got drawn to it. I bought many

books so that I can understand it better. Slowly I found that actually in

the process I became more confused with different theories and approaches by

many teachers. Recently (2 years ago), I met a teacher from Arsha Vidya

Gurukulam and decided to consult him to remove my confusion about Vedanta.

For the past 2 years or so I have been constantly contacting him by phone

(he lives about 450 kms away from my home) or when I meet him to remove the

many notions that I have formed in the initial years of study. And I must

tell you that most of my doubts were cleared just be conversing with him. In

fact most of the points discussed by members in this list became clearer to

me only after that. Sometimes it is so difficult to express our doubts in

writing, so approaching a teacher helps. So 2 mths ago, I decided to

organise weekly Vedanta classes at my home for my benefit and also for other

like minded friends. I must tell you that after attending the classes, I

started appreciating the need for proper classes understanding Vedanta

properly.

 

Just to share my experience.

>

> sambasivam2000 [sMTP:sambasivam2000]

> Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:16 PM

> advaitin

> Re: please note it is a very basic question from

> a novist

>

> Dear All,

>

> Namaskaras to all of you and would seek the blessings of the learned

> scholars in my pursuit of learning Advatha.

>

> My apologies to shri Sadanandaji, as it looks I over reacted but then

> I should say he has achieved the task of making me restless!!! but

> then it looks God has given me the strength to pursue, which I will.

>

> It is true that unless we experience a better happiness we will

> deceive our selves to believe the current state we are in is the

> best. I have been reading various philosophical approaches for many a

> year and did feel the progress in me. I was once into JK philosophy a

> method of enquiry which I did relish, but then the moment I read his

> Autobiography by Puple Jayakar my perception of his completely

> changed and then I dropped the doctrine. I had been a atheist for

> many a years but then I was not able to be without God or thinking

> about him for I don't know why and then I gave up being a atheist. It

> was not ethical for me to say some thing and be some thing else

> within. But the doubt of existence of God persisted and once when I

> attended a Geeth class in Bahrain, I was forced to raise the issue.

> It became a taboo for many but then a learned scholar called me and

> gave me 5 cassettes of Swami Chinmayananda and that transformed my

> knowledge and brought in the conviction in God.

>

> I say the above only to tell some of the learned members that I am

> serious about the learning and am not wasting all your time if some

> of you so feel.

>

> My approach to learning vadanta stems from the same root, on one hand

> we have a role and responsibility in this world for which the created

> and the associated difficulties which are a part of our karma. The

> shear principle of cause and effect.

>

> Now given this scenario we have understand that the effect is there

> and the rebirth is assured purely because of the constitution of the

> body and mind which inherently will tend to make mistakes, and so the

> cycle seems to be end-less. I keep getting confused then I think of

> this principle, when I try to attribute the character of the creator

> who is all loving, all caring and so on. When this be His nature and

> when He also knows that there is a higher state of consciousness

> which we can reach, it looks illogical for me to think that he will

> place me in this endless cycle of birth and death given His nature

> that he is all loving and all caring. So he is the one who

> irrespective of the state we are in will enlighten us. So if I look

> at this way what is the logic of our efforts in vadantha keeping

> aside the intellectual intoxication we get out of it. The

> intoxication we get out of expressing our scholarly understanding of

> the scriptures or the intoxication we get out of talking of the

> finite and the infinite. I say the concept of Maya is beautiful, when

> we use the analogy of the reflection of the Sun on a thousand broken

> glasses and the sun being one. I also understand fully the concept of

> the reason of Maya, compared to other concepts of creation, like if

> we take the some concepts of creating when we say the mud is taken

> and God blew the air init and it became alive but then when we move

> to the level of questioning where did the mud come from there is no

> answer and the treatment of maya seems to be a more convincing

> proposition to me.

>

> But then all this is at a intellectual plane but then when we

> associate the fundamental aspect of God and superimpose our effort or

> no effort in it I see whatever be the approach taken irrespective of

> the efforts we put in he will make us reach salvation. Then why the

> effort.

>

> But when I had a question , question in my mind which was simple and

> that was when the world ends any way all of us become a part of Him

> and so any way we reach the stage of mukthi!!, but my reading gave me

> an answer and that was the people who or not enlightened will be

> recreated when the world is recreated.

>

> Now all this is a intellectual discussion one can have but the

> question remains that could live in harmony with what we have and in

> that aspect Advatha only puts more doubts in my mind, confuses me

> more but if I take it as a intellectual proposition I have no

> problems. But then I cannot do that and then I am into more and more

> confusion all the time and with more questions with no answers.

>

> Many a times my questions asked only gives many a reader the view

> that I am a irresponsible, careless human being with no firm

> conviction of any thing.

>

> When such be the doubts and questions in my mind and the most

> fundamental question being why vadanta, a firm answer does not seems

> to emerge in my mind.

>

> I will ask this forum this question continually till such time the

> Porum perceives me to be an annoyance and throws me out.

>

> I only write this mail as I feel some or all of the members could be

> either feeling that I am too low in the level or not too serious.

>

> IF MY APPROACH IS WRONG I REQUEST THE MODERATER TO CORRECT ME AND

> WILL ABIDE BY THE NORMS OF THE GROUP.

>

> Oh Sri Ganashya Namaha.

> Ranga

>

>

>

>

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Dear Sri Kathirasanji,

 

I am from Bahrain in the middle-east. I will be too willing to talk

to some one here. I think your help will facelitate the process.

 

I admite all the members for there sincerity in the persuit and the

desire shown to help.

 

I will take all the advice given to me in all sincerity and am sure

will become a better member in the times to come.

 

Oh Sri Ganashya Namaha,

Ranga

[Guest guest]

respected sh sadanand jee

u r realy gyanee

thanks for a nice answer to ranga

nkbali

 

 

--- "K. Sadananda" <sada wrote: >

>

> >It looks to me that I am perfectly in harmany as a

> normal being. When

> >this be it what is the need for me to peruad

> Advaith whihc give the

> >impression that it is difficult and the most

> trouble some of all is

> >the feeling that I will not be born in this world

> as I enjoy being

> >born and living in this world.

> >

> >I am confused. Some times I have no clue why I want

> to learn so I

> >spend time in learining Advaith but at other times

> I dont feel like

> >learning. I am not able to get a grasp of what is

> the reasen.

>

> Shree Ranga

>

> If you are in perfect harmony, you have indeed

> accomplished what need

> to be accomplished. There is no need to pursue

> advaita, which

> cannot be pursued anyway, and Vedanta is definitely

> not for you. It

> is only for those who feel inadequate even after

> having a good

> family, good salary and decent amount of alcohol.

> It is only for

> those who want to know what all this means - why

> should I be born and

> struggle through to get what I need to make me feel

> happy. So my

> friend, if you do not feel that need, you may be

> just wasting your

> time trying to learn which is difficult to learn.

> Definitely you seem

> to feel better of enjoying what is given to you and

> pray that those

> things that you enjoy keep coming uninterruptively.

>

> I had one student who asked me once - what is wrong

> sadaji to be

> unhappy once in a way. In contrast that makes the

> happy state

> happier. My response was there is definitely

> nothing wrong being

> unhappy once in a way as along as one is happy about

> it!

>

> Vedanta is only for who are longing for something

> more than what this

> life can give.

>

> When Newton was asking the question "why does an

> apple fall down?" -

> A passerby was puzzled by the question - why are you

> unnecessarily

> worried about why apple falls down. It always falls

> down. You don't

> need some meaningless equations to tell us that

> apple falls down. It

> has been doing this since time immemorial with or

> without the help of

> these unnecessary complicated equations and it will

> continue to do

> so? Why bother about it and just enjoy the apple be

> done with it?

> That is what the apple is meant for - to eat and

> enjoy and not to

> worry about why it falls down? - But Newton was not

> happy just to sit

> down and enjoy that apple and more worried to

> understand why it falls

> down. For him answering that question was sweeter

> than just eating

> that apple that fell down.

>

> See my fried, Vedanta is the science of life. It

> inquires the very

> purpose of this very life itself. One can go through

> the life without

> worrying about what is life all about? Human is

> endowed with

> intellect and it is the very purpose of the

> intellect to inquire the

> cause for everything. What makes a human being

> different from the

> rest of the life forms is only this - he is endowed

> by the rational

> intellect - it cannot but ask the question of why.

> Answer is needed

> only when the question is raised. Otherwise Vedanta

> has no role and

> I agree with you it is just waste of time until that

> time comes when

> the intellect starts asking the question of Why.

>

> Hari Om!

> Sadananda

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> >My learned members can you please tell me why I

> feel this way?. And

> >is there some thing wrong in me?.

> >

> >I am confused.

> >

> >OM Sri Ganashya Namaha.

> >

> >Ranga

> >

> --

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