Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 Dear All, With grace of god, i plan to post the one verse daily from the Vivekachudamani of Sri Adi Shankaracharya. if possible i will also give the english translation of Sri Sri Chandrasekara Bharathi Mahaswaminah, who had actually written the meaning of Vivekachudamaniit in sanskrit sivaya namaha Kamesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 Hari Om !! It is my opinion that posting the verses of Vivekachoodamani will not serve any purpose for this group. Any serious seeker must read the entire Vivekachoodamani in any case. So, posting a verse a day will take about 1 1/2 years. The thread can not be tracked with any practical use and ease, either. It will not meet the progress desired. Also, there are several commentaries available in the market. I would suggest that you can open a common folder and enter the text and authentic commentary which can be referred by those interested. Then it will become a valuable resoource for all. Also, it will not be correct to just upload the published commentaries without the publisher's consent. We, as spiritual seekers have the basic responsibility to respect the oweners of their contribution. I was wondering if there was an approval from Chinmaya Mission to upload the commentary of Swami Chinmayananda on Bhagavad Gita. It may be more appropriate to send the commentary to CMT and have them put up as part of their web site, and we should provide a link with their approval. It will exhibit our respect to the Swami's work. It may be worth while to enter some discussion based on the Vivekachoodamani contents under its own subject. If participents raise genuine questions based on their reading and not speculation, it will be useful for one and all. Mere academic questions will put off many group members and will defeat the purpose. Om Namo Narayanaya !! Srikrishna advaitin, "kamesh" <kamesh@c...> wrote: > Dear All, > > With grace of god, i plan to post the one verse daily from the Vivekachudamani of Sri Adi Shankaracharya. > > if possible i will also give the english translation of Sri Sri Chandrasekara Bharathi Mahaswaminah, who had actually written the meaning of Vivekachudamaniit in sanskrit > > > sivaya namaha > > Kamesh > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 There is an on-line translation of The Crest-Jewel of Wisdom VIVEKACHUDAMANI at http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/crest/crest-1.htm | | srikrishna_ghadiyaram [srikrishna_ghadiyaram] | Friday, 4 January 2002 22:38 | advaitin | Re: Vivekachudamani | | | Hari Om !! | | It is my opinion that posting the verses of Vivekachoodamani | will not | serve any purpose for this group. Any serious seeker must read the | entire Vivekachoodamani in any case. So, posting a verse a day will | take about 1 1/2 years. The thread can not be tracked with any | practical use and ease, either. It will not meet the progress | desired. Also, there are several commentaries available in the | market. | | I would suggest that you can open a common folder and enter the text | and authentic commentary which can be referred by those interested. | Then it will become a valuable resoource for all. | | Also, it will not be correct to just upload the published | commentaries without the publisher's consent. We, as spiritual | seekers have the basic responsibility to respect the oweners | of their | contribution. | | I was wondering if there was an approval from Chinmaya Mission to | upload the commentary of Swami Chinmayananda on Bhagavad | Gita. It may | be more appropriate to send the commentary to CMT and have them put | up as part of their web site, and we should provide a link | with their | approval. It will exhibit our respect to the Swami's work. | | It may be worth while to enter some discussion based on the | Vivekachoodamani contents under its own subject. If participents | raise genuine questions based on their reading and not speculation, | it will be useful for one and all. Mere academic questions will put | off many group members and will defeat the purpose. | | Om Namo Narayanaya !! | | Srikrishna | | | | | advaitin, "kamesh" <kamesh@c...> wrote: | > Dear All, | > | > With grace of god, i plan to post the one verse daily from the | Vivekachudamani of Sri Adi Shankaracharya. | > | > if possible i will also give the english translation of Sri Sri | Chandrasekara Bharathi Mahaswaminah, who had actually written the | meaning of Vivekachudamaniit in sanskrit | > | > | > sivaya namaha | > | > Kamesh | > | > | > | > | | Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 There's also another transliteration, translation and commentary at http://www.advaita-vedanta.org/series/viveka/vivekachudamani_top.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2002 Report Share Posted January 4, 2002 dear srikrishna namaskar the advantage of one shloka a day is that u can do the manan or contemplation on it for the entire day in fact swamy chinmayanand has suggested this method for the deeper understanding if in one and half year we can realy get grip of 'vivek'; what more is required with regards n k bali --- srikrishna_ghadiyaram <srikrishna_ghadiyaram wrote: > Hari Om !! > > It is my opinion that posting the verses of > Vivekachoodamani will not > serve any purpose for this group. Any serious seeker > must read the > entire Vivekachoodamani in any case. So, posting a > verse a day will > take about 1 1/2 years. The thread can not be > tracked with any > practical use and ease, either. It will not meet > the progress > desired. Also, there are several commentaries > available in the > market. > > I would suggest that you can open a common folder > and enter the text > and authentic commentary which can be referred by > those interested. > Then it will become a valuable resoource for all. > > Also, it will not be correct to just upload the > published > commentaries without the publisher's consent. We, as > spiritual > seekers have the basic responsibility to respect the > oweners of their > contribution. > > I was wondering if there was an approval from > Chinmaya Mission to > upload the commentary of Swami Chinmayananda on > Bhagavad Gita. It may > be more appropriate to send the commentary to CMT > and have them put > up as part of their web site, and we should provide > a link with their > approval. It will exhibit our respect to the Swami's > work. > > It may be worth while to enter some discussion based > on the > Vivekachoodamani contents under its own subject. If > participents > raise genuine questions based on their reading and > not speculation, > it will be useful for one and all. Mere academic > questions will put > off many group members and will defeat the purpose. > > Om Namo Narayanaya !! > > Srikrishna > > > > > advaitin, "kamesh" <kamesh@c...> wrote: > > Dear All, > > > > With grace of god, i plan to post the one verse > daily from the > Vivekachudamani of Sri Adi Shankaracharya. > > > > if possible i will also give the english > translation of Sri Sri > Chandrasekara Bharathi Mahaswaminah, who had > actually written the > meaning of Vivekachudamaniit in sanskrit > > > > > > sivaya namaha > > > > Kamesh > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ===== with best wishes, N.K.BALI Visit my site on ' Bhagavad Gita ', a spiritual delight.You will love it. http://in.geocities.com/gitabykrishna ______________________ Looking for a job? Visit India Careers Visit http://in.careers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2002 Report Share Posted January 5, 2002 Quoting srikrishna_ghadiyaram <srikrishna_ghadiyaram: > Hari Om !! > > I was wondering if there was an approval from Chinmaya Mission to > upload the commentary of Swami Chinmayananda on Bhagavad Gita. It may > be more appropriate to send the commentary to CMT and have them put > up as part of their web site, and we should provide a link with their > approval. It will exhibit our respect to the Swami's work. > Om Namo Narayanaya !! > > Srikrishna > Hari Om! This is to just inform everyone that we do have permissions from Chinmaya Mission (ref: Approval letter received by me from Sri Narayan Bhatia, Chief Executive, CCMT). We also have permissions from Rakrishna Mission and other great saints like Swamy Dayanandaji to use their texts (upload) on this forum for the sake of spiritual discussion. Yours, Madhava -- Madhava K Turumella IT Manager forsa gmbH Max-Beer-Str. 2-4 10119 Berlin Germany Telefon +49. 30. 62882-0 Telefax +49. 30. 62882-400 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2002 Report Share Posted January 6, 2002 Namaste Srikrishnaji: Some of the points that you have raised regarding the posting of verses of Vivekachoodamani and Bhagavadgita needs more careful scrutiny before jumping into conclusions. Books, tapes and other media are readily available on most of the topics that we have discussed in this list. The purpose of all our discussions is to transfer the knowledge from the knowledgeable members to the seekers of that knowledge. The flow of any knowledge is multi-dimensional and with interaction between members, knowledge gets enhanced.. The providers of knowledge and receivers of knowledge are never stagnant and they interact and exchange. This forum forces the rs to open their mail box and read the messages of their choice. Some messages get deleted from the mailbox and from the mind quickly, others force the mind to open up and get absorbed. Some messages get more interaction and others get ignored! Every author is responsible for the accuracy of the message that is posted on the list and he/she is obligated to get permission from the original authors. The authors of the postings are also responsible to provide appropriate references and also provide clarifications when questions are raised. Sri Madhavaji, a fellow moderator has already clarified regarding Gita Satsang potings on this list. I want to assure you that the list has obtained permissions from the original authors and/or appropriate institutions for posting relevant materials from books and/or home pages. As a matter of fact, the list got blessings from Kanchi Acharya, Swami Atmanandaji of Vedic Mission, Swami Tejomayanandaji, the Head of Chinmaya Mission and several others for providing the service of Vedanta discussions. As a list moderator, I want to commend the offer from Sri Kamalesh to post one verse a day. I know quite a few members of the list are looking forward to read a verse a day as their daily routine. As a minimum, this will motivate the readers of such verses to get more interest in Vedanta, Vivekachoodamani and other works of Shankara. Every member who s to this list does not have access to internet site and many may not have books. All postings and discussions of this list will certainly help few members to learn some new topics of Vedanta and will become a motivational force. I am of the opinion, Sri Kamalesh shuld be encouraged to post the verses with appropriate translations and commentaries. He should also provide appropriate references for further readings and for clarifications. Others who want to help Sri Kamalesh should contact and provide necessary help. I also request Srikrishnaji to provide his ideas and suggestions for improving and enhancing the service of advaitin list. Please feel free contact me or other moderators with your ideas and we are looking forward. warmest regard, Ram Chandran advaitin, "srikrishna_ghadiyaram" <srikrishna_ghadiyaram> wrote: > Hari Om !! > > It is my opinion that posting the verses of Vivekachoodamani will not > serve any purpose for this group. Any serious seeker must read the > entire Vivekachoodamani in any case. So, posting a verse a day will > take about 1 1/2 years. The thread can not be tracked with any > practical use and ease, either. It will not meet the progress > desired. Also, there are several commentaries available in the > market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2002 Report Share Posted January 6, 2002 Namaste As a member, I welcome the idea of posting a verse from the Vivekachudamani a day. Looking forward to it. Regards. > > ramvchandran [sMTP:rchandran] > Monday, January 07, 2002 6:19 AM > advaitin > Re: Vivekachudamani > > Namaste Srikrishnaji: > > Some of the points that you have raised regarding the posting of > verses of Vivekachoodamani and Bhagavadgita needs more careful > scrutiny before jumping into conclusions. Books, tapes and other media > are readily available on most of the topics that we have discussed in > this list. The purpose of all our discussions is to transfer the > knowledge from the knowledgeable members to the seekers of that > knowledge. The flow of any knowledge is multi-dimensional and with > interaction between members, knowledge gets enhanced.. The providers > of knowledge and receivers of knowledge are never stagnant and they > interact and exchange. This forum forces the rs to open their > mail box and read the messages of their choice. Some messages get > deleted from the mailbox and from the mind quickly, others force the > mind to open up and get absorbed. Some messages get more interaction > and others get ignored! > > Every author is responsible for the accuracy of the message that is > posted on the list and he/she is obligated to get permission from the > original authors. The authors of the postings are also responsible to > provide appropriate references and also provide clarifications when > questions are raised. > > Sri Madhavaji, a fellow moderator has already clarified regarding Gita > Satsang potings on this list. I want to assure you that the list has > obtained permissions from the original authors and/or appropriate > institutions for posting relevant materials from books and/or home > pages. As a matter of fact, the list got blessings from Kanchi > Acharya, Swami Atmanandaji of Vedic Mission, Swami Tejomayanandaji, > the Head of Chinmaya Mission and several others for providing the > service of Vedanta discussions. > > As a list moderator, I want to commend the offer from Sri Kamalesh to > post one verse a day. I know quite a few members of the list are > looking forward to read a verse a day as their daily routine. As a > minimum, this will motivate the readers of such verses to get more > interest in Vedanta, Vivekachoodamani and other works of Shankara. > Every member who s to this list does not have access to > internet site and many may not have books. All postings and > discussions of this list will certainly help few members to learn some > new topics of Vedanta and will become a motivational force. I am of > the opinion, Sri Kamalesh shuld be encouraged to post the verses with > appropriate translations and commentaries. He should also provide > appropriate references for further readings and for clarifications. > Others who want to help Sri Kamalesh should contact and provide > necessary help. > > I also request Srikrishnaji to provide his ideas and suggestions for > improving and enhancing the service of advaitin list. Please feel free > contact me or other moderators with your ideas and we are looking > forward. > > warmest regard, > > Ram Chandran > > advaitin, "srikrishna_ghadiyaram" > <srikrishna_ghadiyaram> wrote: > > Hari Om !! > > > > It is my opinion that posting the verses of Vivekachoodamani will > not > > serve any purpose for this group. Any serious seeker must read the > > entire Vivekachoodamani in any case. So, posting a verse a day will > > take about 1 1/2 years. The thread can not be tracked with any > > practical use and ease, either. It will not meet the progress > > desired. Also, there are several commentaries available in the > > market. > > > > Discussion of Shankara's Advaita Vedanta Philosophy of nonseparablity of > Atman and Brahman. > Advaitin List Archives available at: > http://www.eScribe.com/culture/advaitin/ > To Post a message send an email to : advaitin > Messages Archived at: advaitin/messages > > > > Your use of is subject to > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2002 Report Share Posted January 6, 2002 Hari Om !! As we all know Vivekachoodamani is a Prakarana Grantha. Undoubtedly it is one of the most significant works for a seeker. I was only proposing that if we go with one verse a day, it takes such a long time that it is unlikely to deliver the result required for a seeker. Let us look at an alternative. In Swami Chinmayananda's commentary the verses are grouped by the nature of the subject dealt with, into 77 groups. Because the thought is continuous and complete when we deal with them in such logical groups, it is likely to deliver better results. I also mentioned that there are many commentaries available in the market. If we use these postings as a main location, the effort will get diluted and the greater benefit will be lost, as the commentary is not traceable in any order. Also the original authors presentation will get mixed with our(my) layman's views. Instead if we post it separately in a folder, and reserve the discussion to provide clarifications for the questions that come up, it will provide more value. This was my opinion. Personally, I have questions on some topics. If different people address them based on their understanding, I am likely to learn form others views. I extrapolated this to others. Om Namo Narayanaya !! Srikrishna > I also request Srikrishnaji to provide his ideas and suggestions for > improving and enhancing the service of advaitin list. Please feel free > contact me or other moderators with your ideas and we are looking > forward. > > warmest regard, > > Ram Chandran > > advaitin, "srikrishna_ghadiyaram" > <srikrishna_ghadiyaram> wrote: > > Hari Om !! > > > > It is my opinion that posting the verses of Vivekachoodamani will > not > > serve any purpose for this group. Any serious seeker must read the > > entire Vivekachoodamani in any case. So, posting a verse a day will > > take about 1 1/2 years. The thread can not be tracked with any > > practical use and ease, either. It will not meet the progress > > desired. Also, there are several commentaries available in the > > market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2002 Report Share Posted January 6, 2002 Namaste Srikrishnaji: Thanks for your constructive suggestion on the posting of Vivekachoodamani. Sri Krishna Prasad, Sri Vaidya Sundaram, Sri Kamesh and several others have expressed their keen interest in Vivekachoodamani and are likely to cooperate with you if you agree to be the coordinator of this effort. We are all volunteers who want to help the members to enhance their knowledge on this important of Shankara. Here is an opportunity for you undertake this important project. I also request Sri Krishna Prasad, Sri Vaidya Sundaram, Sri Kamesh and several others who want to help Srikrishnaji to contact him soon. Let us conduct the rest of the managerial discussions through individual emails instead of through the list. I agree that it will be more beneficial with a planned effort as described by you. Before proceeding further, I further request you to write to Sri Sadanandaji, the chief moderator of the list. He will certainly provide you with valuable comments and suggestions. Sri Sadanandaji is very familiar with Swami Chinmayandaji's commentary on Vivekachoodamani. warmest regards, Ram Chandran advaitin, "srikrishna_ghadiyaram" <srikrishna_ghadiyaram> wrote: > Hari Om !! > Let us look at an alternative. In Swami Chinmayananda's commentary > the verses are grouped by the nature of the subject dealt with, into > 77 groups. Because the thought is continuous and complete when we > deal with them in such logical groups, it is likely to deliver > better results. > > I also mentioned that there are many commentaries available in the > market. If we use these postings as a main location, the effort will > get diluted and the greater benefit will be lost, as the commentary > is not traceable in any order. Also the original authors presentation > will get mixed with our(my) layman's views. > > Instead if we post it separately in a folder, and reserve the > discussion to provide clarifications for the questions that come up, > it will provide more value. This was my opinion. Personally, I have > questions on some topics. If different people address them based on > their understanding, I am likely to learn form others views. I > extrapolated this to others. > > Om Namo Narayanaya !! > > Srikrishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2002 Report Share Posted January 6, 2002 Hari Om !! Having initiated a discussion on how to make this Vivekachoodamani posting a useful resource for now and the future, I can not refuse your proposal. Though it is not an easy responsibility, I accept this as the will of the Lord Narayana. Om Namo Narayanaya !! Srikrishna advaitin, "ramvchandran" <rchandran@c...> wrote: > Namaste Srikrishnaji: > > Thanks for your constructive suggestion on the posting of > Vivekachoodamani. Sri Krishna Prasad, Sri Vaidya Sundaram, Sri Kamesh > and several others have expressed their keen interest in > Vivekachoodamani and are likely to cooperate with you if you agree to > be the coordinator of this effort. > > We are all volunteers who want to help the members to enhance their > knowledge on this important of Shankara. Here is an opportunity for > you undertake this important project. I also request Sri Krishna > Prasad, Sri Vaidya Sundaram, Sri Kamesh and several others who want to > help Srikrishnaji to contact him soon. Let us conduct the rest of the > managerial discussions through individual emails instead of through > the list. I agree that it will be more beneficial with a planned > effort as described by you. > > Before proceeding further, I further request you to write to Sri > Sadanandaji, the chief moderator of the list. He will certainly > provide you with valuable comments and suggestions. Sri Sadanandaji is > very familiar with Swami Chinmayandaji's commentary on > Vivekachoodamani. > > warmest regards, > > Ram Chandran > > advaitin, "srikrishna_ghadiyaram" > <srikrishna_ghadiyaram> wrote: > > Hari Om !! > > > Let us look at an alternative. In Swami Chinmayananda's commentary > > the verses are grouped by the nature of the subject dealt with, into > > 77 groups. Because the thought is continuous and complete when we > > deal with them in such logical groups, it is likely to deliver > > better results. > > > > I also mentioned that there are many commentaries available in the > > market. If we use these postings as a main location, the effort will > > get diluted and the greater benefit will be lost, as the commentary > > is not traceable in any order. Also the original authors > presentation > > will get mixed with our(my) layman's views. > > > > Instead if we post it separately in a folder, and reserve the > > discussion to provide clarifications for the questions that come up, > > it will provide more value. This was my opinion. Personally, I have > > questions on some topics. If different people address them based on > > their understanding, I am likely to learn form others views. I > > extrapolated this to others. > > > > Om Namo Narayanaya !! > > > > Srikrishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2002 Report Share Posted February 6, 2002 Hi Kamesh, It will be very good to get a posting of Sankara's Vivekachudamani with the learned commentary of Sri Chandrasekara Bharati Mahaswaminah. I was interested to find out that there is a web-site with the slokas and commentary. http://www.advaita-vedanta.org/series/viveka/vivekachudamani_top.htm Unfortunately there are only 38 verses on this site.. regards Sundar Rajan advaitin, "kamesh" <kamesh@c...> wrote: > Dear All, > > With grace of god, i plan to post the one verse daily from the Vivekachudamani of Sri Adi Shankaracharya. > > if possible i will also give the english translation of Sri Sri Chandrasekara Bharathi Mahaswaminah, who had actually written the meaning of Vivekachudamaniit in sanskrit > > > sivaya namaha > > Kamesh > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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