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During my recent vedantic lecture on the subject "Thine Own Self" in Berlin,

Germany

(advaitinArticles/thyownself.htm)

someone has asked me the question:

 

How exactly the people who to the Theory of Advaita (non-duality)

contribute to the society; how is this theory useful to the society?

 

I would request learned members to write what they think is an appropriate

answer.

Also, one more important request: This is asking for opinions, please do

not discuss somebody elses opinion! This is just to collect the opinions of

all rs to Advaitin Theory.... Everybody is entitled to their

opinion, at the end I would like to collect everybody's opinion and put it

on the Advaitin webspace (Ofcourse, only after the aproval from the Advaitin

moderation board)

 

Yours,

Madhava

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In a true adviatic understanding, there is no difference between I and the

rest of the world. If my finger accidentally hurts my eye, I do not

procecute the finger since I have a notion that the finger is not differnt

from me and the eye is not differnt from me - the same fingers will try to

smoothen the eye that got hurt - since the 'I-ness' and 'M-ness' pervades

the whole body as one. In a true advaitic understanding, there cannot

distinct feeling of separateness of oneself from the rest. The world is me

and I am the world. In that true understanding my role is to take of myself

- I cannot be greed, I cannot be self-fish, I will do everything to uplift

the world in a way. Since I love myself as supreme source of happiness,

whatever I do to myself is not considered as doing something but doing what

is natural. Hence only in true advaitic understanding only one can be real

reform and all actions one does for or in the society are extension of ones

own self. He will be the one who can do self-less and inspired actions that

benefit the whole world. He will be the one who can see and experience the

vaasudeva kutumbam - loves the whole universe as he loves himself.

Advaitic understanding is not exclusion of oneself but inclusion of oneself

with everything as oneself - sarva bhuutastam aatmaanam sarva bhuutanicha

aatmani. - one who sees all beings in oneself and oneself in all beings -

Since there is nothing otherthan oneself - that is the essense of advaita

and that is true understanding of advaita and that is true goal of advaita.

 

Hari Om!

Sadananda

 

>"Madhava K. Turumella" <madhava

>advaitin

><Advaitin (AT) (DOT) com>

> What should be an Advaitins role in the society?

>Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:51:12 +0100

>

>During my recent vedantic lecture on the subject "Thine Own Self" in

>Berlin,

>Germany

>(advaitinArticles/thyownself.htm)

>someone has asked me the question:

>

>How exactly the people who to the Theory of Advaita (non-duality)

>contribute to the society; how is this theory useful to the society?

>

>I would request learned members to write what they think is an appropriate

>answer.

>Also, one more important request: This is asking for opinions, please do

>not discuss somebody elses opinion! This is just to collect the opinions

>of

>all rs to Advaitin Theory.... Everybody is entitled to their

>opinion, at the end I would like to collect everybody's opinion and put it

>on the Advaitin webspace (Ofcourse, only after the aproval from the

>Advaitin

>moderation board)

>

>Yours,

>Madhava

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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The advaitin,s or those who get interested in advaita philosophy realise in

due course of time that the world is changing at all times.You cannot change

the world as you want it to be.So, as mahatma Gandhiji said ( the only thing

you can try to change is yourself .) that is the only relative freedom we

have.I thlnk the roll of an advaitin in society will be to become the best

roll model so at least some may take notice and try to help the

disadvantaged.If you change,the world around you changes!

Nirmala

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> How exactly the people who to the Theory

> of Advaita (non-duality)

> contribute to the society; how is this theory useful

> to the society?

 

 

Namaste Madhava,

 

When first the concepts of ' a little bit of real

estate in heaven' or 'self-realisation' appeared to be

a distasteful aim to me, a phrase arose 'Until the

last ant is free how can there be freedom for me?'

A better way of saying the same thing is in the final

picture of the Zen 'Taming the Bull' pictures. This

has the original seeker finally 'Entering the

market-place with bliss-bestowing hands.' It seems to

me that service in unity is the natural outcome of

advaita...does not the name Shankara come from

Sham..the bliss of the revelation of the supreme

non-dualism ...karoti...brings about. See the first

verse of the Shiva Suutras for this formulation.

I think that such a question as you were given is

based in the Western interpretation of the 'neti,

neti' or via negativa principal being world denying.

However, I would see the advaitin path realising the

affirmative vison so that finally beauty is indeed in

the eye of the beholder and in all that is beheld, for

they are inseparable having transcended the veils of

subject/object.

With such a vision, the divisions of good/bad

disappear and equanimity prevails. Yes, the conflicts

and various activities will unfold but without the

inflaming energy of attachment propelling them ever

onwards.

 

Just a first response for you,

Om sri ram

Ken Knight

 

 

 

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advaitin, "Madhava K. Turumella" <madhava@f...>

wrote:

> During my recent vedantic lecture on the subject "Thine Own

Self" in Berlin,

> Germany

> (advaitinArticles/

thyownself.htm)

> someone has asked me the question:

>

> How exactly the people who to the Theory of Advaita

(non-duality)

> contribute to the society; how is this theory useful to the

society?

>

> I would request learned members to write what they think is an

appropriate

> answer.

> Also, one more important request: This is asking for opinions,

please do

> not discuss somebody elses opinion! This is just to collect

the opinions of

> all rs to Advaitin Theory.... Everybody is entitled to

their

> opinion, at the end I would like to collect everybody's opinion

and put it

> on the Advaitin webspace (Ofcourse, only after the aproval from

the Advaitin

> moderation board)

>

> Yours,

> Madhava

 

It would be a tragedy if in your quest to answer this question you

did not look deeply into the writings and teaching of Sri

Aurobindo. His integral yoga, which at its core is profoundly

advaitan, is also transformational, his great work was and is to

have the divine to enter and transform all aspects of human life

and action, as he so brilliantly expounds in the magnum opus,

"The Divine Life."

 

As one of the spiritual fathers of modern India, who helped give it

birth, Sri Aurobindo is truly unique in his integration of the

abstract and the relative, the human and the divine, in the one

Unity that is the heart of vedanta. I can think of no better

exponent of the Advaitin's practical and transformational role in

society -- and if you look at his marvelous life and service to

India, you will see that his sadhana was no mere philosophic

talk or theory, no mere escape into bliss, but a living, breathing

divine Life that transforms the world, even as it rises above it.

 

Steve

~*~

"Surrender is giving oneself to the Divine -- to give everything one

is or has to the Divine and regard nothing as one's own, to obey

only the Divine will and no other, to live for the Divine and not for

the ego." Sri Aurobindo

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advaitin, "Madhava K. Turumella" <madhava@f...> wrote:

 

Re: What should be an Advaitins role in the society?

 

Not to cling to the title of Advaitin.

Nor to cling to any description.

Nor to cling,

But to be with what is.

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Namaste:

 

Shankara's Advaita Vedanta Philosophy comprises of two aspects:

(1) Theory or Conjecture of non-duality between mind and matter

(2) How this theory of non-duality confirms with the Scriptures

consisting of Sruti (Vedas including the Upanishads) and Smriti

(Bhagavad Gita, Brahma Suutra and Dharma Shastra).

 

In other words Shankara's Advaita Vedanta Philsophy is not just the

non-duality but it is much more than. It should be pointed out that

both Ramanuja and Madhava the proponents of Visistadwaita and Dwaita

did not agree with Shankara's contention.

 

The pure theoretical aspect of non-duality can't answer the question:

How is this theory useful to the society. Since Shankara's Advaita

Philosophy confirms to the scriptures, we can look for the answer to

the stated question as stated by the scriptures. The answer is well

stated in conversational style of format in Bhagavad Gita. Bhagavad

Gita describes the human nature and his/her responsibilities to the

society targeting an audience with diverse personalities. Gita

fundamentally stresses the importance of Karma (duty to the society)

and Dharma (ethics of conducting those duties). All our contributions

to the society will be conducted with the 'Yagna spirit' without

looking for 'reward' for one's contribution. What it really means is

that we should broaden our outlook - our family is all inclusive of

all beings in the nature. The dharma of 'fire' is to burn. The dharma

of light is to remove darkness. It is easy for human beings to specify

the dharma of everything that we see in nature. The human dharma can

only become clear if we understand our Divine Nature (True Human

Nature). The entire Gita becomes a study of the understanding of our

Divine Nature and with that understanding we become Perfect Yogi or a

realized person. The charactertistics of the realized person

(advaitin) are described in Gita in Chapter 2, Verses 55 to 72 in

summary form. The entire Gita is an elaboration of these

characteristics.

 

Let me conclude my observation with persons that I admire who are

perceived by the society as Perfect Yogis: Bhagawan Ramana,

Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Swami Yogananda, Swami Vivekananda, Mahatma

Gandhi and so many others. I would also include many of the well known

artists, scientists and political leaders who dedicated their time to

the happiness and welfare of the universal society at large.

 

All that I have stated here are based on my perception based on

my incomplete knowledge and consequently are subject to errors.

 

Warmest regards,

 

Ram Chandran

 

advaitin, "Madhava K. Turumella" <madhava@f...> wrote:

> ......... How exactly the people who to the

> ...Theory of Advaita (non-duality)

> contribute to the society; how is this theory useful to the society?

>

> I would request learned members to write what they think is an

> appropriate answer.

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advaitin Madhav wrote:How exactly the people who to

the Theory of Advaita (non-duality) contribute to the society; how is this

theory useful to the society?

 

 

Dear Madhava,

 

 

=This question assumes that "other" theories/ belief/ faith/ religion they

already know e.g. Christianity or Materialism or Democracy etc have some

ATTRIBUTES and they expect something similar frame-work from the "Theory of

Advaita".

 

 

To begin with Advaitin's basic premise is that there are no attributes to

describe the soul as there is one reality only-and that is YOU, everything else

is an illusion borne out of ignorance of the soul.

 

 

For those who are not familar with an ongoing discussion on this subject- this

may be at first hearing, sound a bit like "Catch 22" situation. First we say,

that Brahman is the only reality and then we say that all of us are ignorant but

still we are one brahman!

 

 

Here it has to be emphasized that all these are "iva" (as it were- not really).

This means that Brahamn is the only reality and we are all "as it were". So the

world is transient and not permenant. We cannot make any "Fixed Assets" in this

world, only accumulate "Liabilities". So why not be Good? Being smarter than

others and getting possessions by depriving others will all have no use, because

at the end- which is guarnteed without exception, all this "program" cannot be

saved when you log off- except for the the final revealing knowledge (I am

that). So you may well click on to the "HOME PAGE".

 

 

Hari Om (and Hurry Home)

 

 

Pranams.

 

 

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>advaitin Madhav wrote:How exactly the

people who to the Theory of Advaita

(non-duality) contribute to the society; how is this

theory useful to the society?

 

Dear Madhava,

 

=This question assumes that "other" theories/ belief/

faith/ religion they already know e.g. Christianity or

Materialism or Democracy etc have some ATTRIBUTES and

they expect something similar frame-work from the

"Theory of Advaita".

 

To begin with Advaitin's basic premise is that there

are no attributes to describe the soul as there is one

reality only-and that is YOU, everything else is an

illusion borne out of ignorance of the soul.

 

For those who are not familar with an ongoing

discussion on this subject- this may be at first

hearing, sound a bit like "Catch 22" situation. First

we say, that Brahman is the only reality and then we

say that all of us are ignorant but still we are one

brahman!

 

Here it has to be emphasized that all these are "iva"

(as it were- not really). This means that Brahamn is

the only reality and we are all "as it were". So the

world is transient and not permenant. We cannot make

any "Fixed Assets" in this world, only accumulate

"Liabilities". So why not be Good? Being smarter than

others and getting possessions by depriving others

will all have no use, because at the end- which is

guarnteed without exception, all this "program" cannot

be saved when you log off- except for the the final

revealing knowledge (I am that). So you may well click

on to the "HOME PAGE".

 

Hari Om (and Hurry Home)

 

Pranams.

 

P.B.V.Rajan

 

 

 

 

 

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> How exactly the people who to the Theory of Advaita

> (non-duality) contribute to the society; how is this theory useful

> to the society?

 

Madhavaji,

 

With the height of advaitic understanding, there would be no me

different from the world. There is no longer a "doer" or "contributor"

who functions from a fragmented perspective, out of fear and desire.

Spontaneous, unprejudiced, unconditioned and most adequate functioning

happens through the equipments of the body and the mind as demanded by

a given situation at any given moment. What could be a greater

blessing for the society and for people who come in contact with such

an "individual"?

 

warmest regards,

--Satyan

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> Madhavaji,

>

> With the height of advaitic understanding, there would be no me

> different from the world. There is no longer a "doer"

or "contributor"

 

Dear Sir,

I see the depth of the explanation but can we create a world with

Advaitha as a value system ?.

 

For this I think we have to look at history, can some enlightened

people in the group give some insight into the way people lived

during the Sankara period?.

 

It looks to me that at this age and period it is more a philosophical

extravaganza for us to explore Advaith and nothing more. The best we

can to is to intoxicate us with Advaith and live in a dream land like

we do by taking drugs and I see this to be no different. We are

basically trying to escape from reality !!. It also helps us to have

a hope in life and not despair of the difficulties and trouble we

face in life. It has a good therapeutically value I have no doubts

about that scaling this to any higher state looks to me of no use at

all.

 

I am sure some of u will send a reply to me saying if that be it so

be it !! but is that what the answer is ?, is the question you should

ask your self !!!.

 

 

Om Sri Ganashya Namaha,

Ranga

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> How exactly the people who to the Theory of Advaita

(non-duality)

> contribute to the society; how is this theory useful to the society?

>

Namaste.

 

Advaita/Vedanta ---contributes to ---> Society

 

To know how, we need to clearly understand what is it that the Society

needs.

Further we also need to understand what is it that Advaita/Vedanta can

offer to address above. Perhaps it can address infinitely more than

what what Society needs. It is because Society is finite and its needs

are therefore finite. Finiteness is trivial with respect to

Infiniteness.

The question boils down to identifying what Society needs. To know

this, one may talk to a 90-year old, a 60-year old, a 40 year-old, a

20-year old, a 10-year old and a 1,2,3,4,5 year old. Why talk to them?

because it is people that comprises a society. I have a guess as to a

commonality of answers to the above question. Irrespective of a

person's financial status, and irrespective of everything, I have a

feeling that uniformly, the trend of answers will be 'respect'.

Everyone usually wants a little respect and nothing more.

 

Advaita/Vedanta treats everyone as Divine and each person is respected

Infinitely because of the Divine in each person. This will be shown in

each gesture, in talk and in all practice.

Once this is taken care of, remaining all things in Society are

details. They will all be taken care of automatically.

 

Hence the vision must be based on unfolding the Divine in a society.

 

Kind Regards,

Raghava

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advaitin, "sambasivam2000" <sambasivam2000> wrote:

> I see the depth of the explanation but can we create a world with

> Advaitha as a value system ?.

>

> It looks to me that at this age and period it is more a

philosophical

> extravaganza for us to explore Advaith and nothing more. The best

we

> can to is to intoxicate us with Advaith and live in a dream land

like

> we do by taking drugs and I see this to be no different. We are

> basically trying to escape from reality !!. It also helps us to

have

> a hope in life and not despair of the difficulties and trouble we

> face in life. It has a good therapeutically value I have no doubts

> about that scaling this to any higher state looks to me of no use

at

> all.

....

> Om Sri Ganashya Namaha,

> Ranga

 

Namaste Shri Ranga-Ji,

 

I completely understand your concerns. Practically speaking,

what we need for the society and also ourselves is establishment

of Dharma. The important question to ask then is: If one were

to follow the path of Vedanta (and Yoga), is it assured that

the thought and deeds of such a person will be on lines of

Dharma ? Further, will such a person naturally inspire people

around to align themselves with Dharma ?

 

If answer to these questions is a Yes, your concerns are

addressed.

 

Best regards

Shrinivas Gadkari

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Namaste!

 

Advaitin's role in society:

 

 

To answer this question, one must first of all address

the following points:

 

(a) Who is an Advaitin?

(b) How do we define “society”?

 

First about Advaitin. Is one who is still labouring

on the path of Advaita Vedanta an advaitin? He has an

academic appreciation of what advaita is all about.

But that academic awareness has not still blossomed

into self-realization – i.e. jeevan mukthi. So, I

would like to restrict the use of the word “advaitin”

to refer only to jeevan mukthas.

 

Now to come to the word “society”. We do have a

tendency to consider society as something existing

outside us, definite and common to everyone. Is this

a correct understanding? A little contemplation will

show that nothing can be father from truth.

 

Let us assume that there is a jeevan muktha in a small

community somewhere atop a snowy mountain in

present-day Afghanistan. He does not have television,

newspapers and all the rest of the paraphernalia that

we are accustomed to and cannot live without. His

world is his immediate surroundings of a very few

neighbours and the vast expanse of Lord’s beatitude

that he views from the mountaintop. He does not know

what is happening to his country. He does not even

have a sense of nationality. No doubt, he hears the

terrific sounds and sees the fire and smoke made by

daisy cutters and carpet bombers. But he does not

panic, for he does not know what these machines are

all about and sees only his Lord in all the fury

generated by them. His immediate concern is to wipe

the tears of an ailing neighbour or to attend to the

wants of a crying child beside him. As a

personification of tranquility, he goes about doing

his job spontaneously flowing into each situation.

Each situation as it pops up in front of him is the

Lord Himself for him! He is not bothered by “exalted”

thoughts of a possible role he can play in freeing his

country and making it to Kabul to participate in the

power game there. For him, his “role” is to

spontaneously fit into situations his Lord places him

in. He does not have to hunt for a role. He

understands that the situations he is placed in

constitute society and he accepts it wholeheartedly in

whatever form it appears before him, because he knows

with certainty that the realities around him are

nothing but the Lord Himself.

 

This cannot be said about a so-called terrorist holed

up in a cave a few kilometers from this rustic. He

is fleeing for his life and already in the heart of a

nightmarish situation staring on the face of certain

death. For him, the realities, as they appear and as

he sees them, are quite different

 

Now let us go to the White House in Washington. There

is this gentleman looking all tensed up and worried.

He is the world’s most powerful man. He has embarked

on a mission to eliminate terrorism and hunt down the

elusive man responsible for it. And he has to do that

to keep his job. With each passing day, success

eludes him. He is upset and nervous. His daily

realities include the buzzing capitals across the

whole world, the power brokers there and hell of a lot

of information coming from several satellites orbiting

the globe, not to speak of the incessant outpourings

from the media on ground. He does not have a free

minute for his personal needs.

 

What represents society to the simple Afghan rustic is

a far cry from the tumultuous world of this most

powerful man. Similarly, for each one of us, the

immediate realities that constitute society are

different and we are already “placed” in different

roles to interact with them in our daily life. To one

who lives in a place of turmoil and strife, pain and

death are immediate realities whereas to those who are

far removed from the scene, such tragedies are just

printed news. Yet again, there may be others in other

parts of the world who are totally unaware of what is

happening. The only conclusion – the so-called

realities experienced by us is the sum total of our

own samskaras. Where we are and what we confront are

already decided for us. Thus, the society we are in

is not our choice. The roles also cannot be.

 

An advaitin realizes that the roles he is to play in

society are “given” to him (by the Lord, of course!).

This is not fatalism but only an appreciation of

Reality with capital “R”. An Advaitin accepts his

roles as prasad from the Lord and fits into them

spontaneously. He is never engaged in role hunting.

He does not fret why he was born a poor Indian and not

an American billionaire. He is not overwhelmed by

thoughts of bringing about revolutions and changing

societies. Changes he will make with courage and

conviction, if possible and required. But, if he

fails, failure will not make him bitter, because

failure and success are also prasad coming from the

Lord. He knows and accepts the difference between

what he can change and what he cannot.

 

Writing about Mahatma Gandhi, a renowned Malayalam

poet once sang:

 

When this leader is engaged in important discussions,

even a jungle location is an exalted assembly hall.

When this yogi is immersed in faultless samadhi, even

a busy city center is a tranquil mountain cave.

 

Nothing can better describe the state of a jeevan

muktha. Gandhiji did not run after a role. He just

fitted into what was “given” him spontaneously.

 

The same is true about Jesus Christ and many other

grat mean. Did Christ chase a role or did he vow to

change society? No. He was simply spontaneous in the

role the Lord granted him. For a long distance,

Christ was made to carry the very Cross he was at last

crucified on. He smiled all along the long journey.

The sick on the way got cured of terrible diseases.

For Christ everything was the Lord. What did it

matter if He appeared as a Cross or as crucifiers?

Smile.

 

The Lord is right in front of you. And if he pulls

out a revolver, call him by his real name: “Hey

Ram!”.

 

Did these Jeevan Mukthas look around for a role? They

were the role and the role is Lord. And where is

society? Isn’t that too the Lord then?!

 

And what is the role for us – the non-jeevan mukthas

or aspiring jeevan mukthas? Invoke our ichchasakthi

(Lord again!) through incessant prayers in order that

jeevan mukthas are placed in Washington, New Delhi,

Islamabad and in all other hot-spots around the globe.

I am sure the Lord will listen because He has no

choice. We should not grant Him one!

 

Pranams to everyone.

 

M.R. Nair

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--- "Madhava K. Turumella" <madhava wrote:

> >

> How exactly the people who to the Theory

> of Advaita (non-duality)

> contribute to the society; how is this theory useful

> to the society?

>

> I would request learned members to write what they

> think is an appropriate

> answer.

> >

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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Namaskar,

What a brilliant artcile you have written. I feel you explained it fully.That

had always been my point of view too. Perhaps I could not have put it so

beautiflly and succinctly.

Thanks a Lot for this illustrious piece.

Vinayak

Madathil Nair <madathilnair wrote: Namaste!

 

Advaitin's role in society:

 

 

To answer this question, one must first of all address

the following points:

 

(a) Who is an Advaitin?

(b) How do we define “society”?

 

First about Advaitin. Is one who is still labouring

on the path of Advaita Vedanta an advaitin? He has an

academic appreciation of what advaita is all about.

But that academic awareness has not still blossomed

into self-realization – i.e. jeevan mukthi. So, I

would like to restrict the use of the word “advaitin”

to refer only to jeevan mukthas.

 

Now to come to the word “society”. We do have a

tendency to consider society as something existing

outside us, definite and common to everyone. Is this

a correct understanding? A little contemplation will

show that nothing can be father from truth.

 

Let us assume that there is a jeevan muktha in a small

community somewhere atop a snowy mountain in

present-day Afghanistan. He does not have television,

newspapers and all the rest of the paraphernalia that

we are accustomed to and cannot live without. His

world is his immediate surroundings of a very few

neighbours and the vast expanse of Lord’s beatitude

that he views from the mountaintop. He does not know

what is happening to his country. He does not even

have a sense of nationality. No doubt, he hears the

terrific sounds and sees the fire and smoke made by

daisy cutters and carpet bombers. But he does not

panic, for he does not know what these machines are

all about and sees only his Lord in all the fury

generated by them. His immediate concern is to wipe

the tears of an ailing neighbour or to attend to the

wants of a crying child beside him. As a

personification of tranquility, he goes about doing

his job spontaneously flowing into each situation.

Each situation as it pops up in front of him is the

Lord Himself for him! He is not bothered by “exalted”

thoughts of a possible role he can play in freeing his

country and making it to Kabul to participate in the

power game there. For him, his “role” is to

spontaneously fit into situations his Lord places him

in. He does not have to hunt for a role. He

understands that the situations he is placed in

constitute society and he accepts it wholeheartedly in

whatever form it appears before him, because he knows

with certainty that the realities around him are

nothing but the Lord Himself.

 

This cannot be said about a so-called terrorist holed

up in a cave a few kilometers from this rustic. He

is fleeing for his life and already in the heart of a

nightmarish situation staring on the face of certain

death. For him, the realities, as they appear and as

he sees them, are quite different

 

Now let us go to the White House in Washington. There

is this gentleman looking all tensed up and worried.

He is the world’s most powerful man. He has embarked

on a mission to eliminate terrorism and hunt down the

elusive man responsible for it. And he has to do that

to keep his job. With each passing day, success

eludes him. He is upset and nervous. His daily

realities include the buzzing capitals across the

whole world, the power brokers there and hell of a lot

of information coming from several satellites orbiting

the globe, not to speak of the incessant outpourings

from the media on ground. He does not have a free

minute for his personal needs.

 

What represents society to the simple Afghan rustic is

a far cry from the tumultuous world of this most

powerful man. Similarly, for each one of us, the

immediate realities that constitute society are

different and we are already “placed” in different

roles to interact with them in our daily life. To one

who lives in a place of turmoil and strife, pain and

death are immediate realities whereas to those who are

far removed from the scene, such tragedies are just

printed news. Yet again, there may be others in other

parts of the world who are totally unaware of what is

happening. The only conclusion – the so-called

realities experienced by us is the sum total of our

own samskaras. Where we are and what we confront are

already decided for us. Thus, the society we are in

is not our choice. The roles also cannot be.

 

An advaitin realizes that the roles he is to play in

society are “given” to him (by the Lord, of course!).

This is not fatalism but only an appreciation of

Reality with capital “R”. An Advaitin accepts his

roles as prasad from the Lord and fits into them

spontaneously. He is never engaged in role hunting.

He does not fret why he was born a poor Indian and not

an American billionaire. He is not overwhelmed by

thoughts of bringing about revolutions and changing

societies. Changes he will make with courage and

conviction, if possible and required. But, if he

fails, failure will not make him bitter, because

failure and success are also prasad coming from the

Lord. He knows and accepts the difference between

what he can change and what he cannot.

 

Writing about Mahatma Gandhi, a renowned Malayalam

poet once sang:

 

When this leader is engaged in important discussions,

even a jungle location is an exalted assembly hall.

When this yogi is immersed in faultless samadhi, even

a busy city center is a tranquil mountain cave.

 

Nothing can better describe the state of a jeevan

muktha. Gandhiji did not run after a role. He just

fitted into what was “given” him spontaneously.

 

The same is true about Jesus Christ and many other

grat mean. Did Christ chase a role or did he vow to

change society? No. He was simply spontaneous in the

role the Lord granted him. For a long distance,

Christ was made to carry the very Cross he was at last

crucified on. He smiled all along the long journey.

The sick on the way got cured of terrible diseases.

For Christ everything was the Lord. What did it

matter if He appeared as a Cross or as crucifiers?

Smile.

 

The Lord is right in front of you. And if he pulls

out a revolver, call him by his real name: “Hey

Ram!”.

 

Did these Jeevan Mukthas look around for a role? They

were the role and the role is Lord. And where is

society? Isn’t that too the Lord then?!

 

And what is the role for us – the non-jeevan mukthas

or aspiring jeevan mukthas? Invoke our ichchasakthi

(Lord again!) through incessant prayers in order that

jeevan mukthas are placed in Washington, New Delhi,

Islamabad and in all other hot-spots around the globe.

I am sure the Lord will listen because He has no

choice. We should not grant Him one!

 

Pranams to everyone.

 

M.R. Nair

___________________________

 

--- "Madhava K. Turumella" wrote:

> >

> How exactly the people who to the Theory

> of Advaita (non-duality)

> contribute to the society; how is this theory useful

> to the society?

>

> I would request learned members to write what they

> think is an appropriate

> answer.

> >

>

>

>

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