Guest guest Posted February 8, 2002 Report Share Posted February 8, 2002 Questioner: I long for bhakti (devotion), I want more of this longing. Even realization does not matter for me. Let me be strong in my longing. Bhagavan Ramana: If the longing is there, realization will be forced on you even if you do not want it. It is the doorway for realization. >From the section: "THE HEART" (pages 38-39) in the book, "MORE DOUBTS AND 100 MORE ANSWERS ," compiled and edited by A.R. Natarajan. Published by Ramana Maharshi Centre for Learning, Bangalore, India. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2002 Report Share Posted February 9, 2002 --- Gabriele Ebert <g.ebert wrote: > Questioner: I long for bhakti (devotion), I want > more of this longing. > Even realization does not matter for me. Let me be > strong in my longing. > > Bhagavan Ramana: If the longing is there, > realization will be forced on > you even if you do not want it. It is the doorway > for realization. Namaste all, Whose is that longing? Here is a story from Rumi's Mathnavi: A man had long cried 'O Allah' but stopped when Satan had enquired of him why he babbled in such a way when there was never a reply. When the man stopped his entreaty Khizr..a special agent was sent to him to ask why he had stopped: 'The man said, 'The answer "Here am I" came not whereof I fear that I am repulsed from the door.' Khizr replied to him,"God has given me this command; Go to him and say,"Oh much tried one, Did not I engage thee to do my service? Did not I engage thee to call upon me? That calling "Allah" of thine WAS my "Here am I," And that pain and longing and ardour of thine my messenger; Thy struggles and strivings for assistance Were my attractions, and originated thy prayer, Thy fear and thy love are the covert of my mercy, Each "O Lord!" of thine contains man "Here am I's". >From Book 3 of the Mathnavi All 'this' is the desire of the One to be many in its own unity and to give up the desire for realization, to offer up 'my longing' with the question "Whose is this longing?"; Is this the teaching of both Ramana and Rumi? Om sri ram jai jai ram Ken Knight Send FREE Valentine eCards with Greetings! http://greetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2002 Report Share Posted February 11, 2002 That is a beautiful quote. In fact the life story of the 63 naayanmaar (devotees of Lord shiva most of whom were from Tamilnadu. Details at http://www.shaivam.org/naayan_f.html) is mainly this theme - the love for God than even the liberation, as sekizar puts in his golden words, "kuuDum anbinil kumbiDalee anRi viiDum veeNDaa viRalin viLanginaar" (Other than worshipping in the growing love, (these devotees) excelled in the valour of not even asking for moksha.) As the vedic hymns put it, when one completely involves in the enjoyment of praising the Lord knowing Its glory, the liberation comes right here. namaH shivAya. love, Ganesh --------------------- Message: 5 Fri, 8 Feb 2002 23:58:29 +0100 "Gabriele Ebert" <g.ebert Longing is the doorway for realization Questioner: I long for bhakti (devotion), I want more of this longing. Even realization does not matter for me. Let me be strong in my longing. Bhagavan Ramana: If the longing is there, realization will be forced on you even if you do not want it. It is the doorway for realization. >From the section: "THE HEART" (pages 38-39) in the book, "MORE DOUBTS AND 100 MORE ANSWERS ," compiled and edited by A.R. Natarajan. Published by Ramana Maharshi Centre for Learning, Bangalore, India. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ===== --------------------------- Visit Shaivism Home Page at http://www.shaivam.org --------------------------- I said I gave my body - became far off from guru's teachings I said I gave my mind - became far off from the linga I said I gave my wealth - became far off from the devotees There is nothing more disasterous than the disaster I got ito by saying "I did for You", kUDalasangamadEva ! - basavaNNa Send FREE Valentine eCards with Greetings! http://greetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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