Guest guest Posted February 24, 2002 Report Share Posted February 24, 2002 Since someone asked about U.G. Krishnamurti, here is a comment and a question about U.G. from last year. The question was asked of Sri Greg Goode. I forget what reply Gregji gave. Perhaps he remembers. Paul Friday, August 31, 2001 8:22 PM Greg: I was just reading U.G. Krishnamurti's story and he claims he had profound physical changes as well as mental. Very interesting. I don't know if these physical changes would necessarily happen to everyone. They included growing breasts, going through severe pain and weird stuff like that. Now, I guess he "dies" regularly where his heart rate slows down and he gasps for air. Plus, his mind is normally declutched and he has to make an effort to think or declutch his mind. I don't know if it is enlightenment or Alzheimer's.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2002 Report Share Posted February 24, 2002 Namaste Shri Harshaji, It was about a few months back that I happened to chance upon the website of UGK. The man fascinated me initially and I thought I really had a "demolisher" there. Naturally, therefore, I poured myself on his writings only to grow very tired and bored towards the middle. I don't think there is anything for an advaitin there who wants to stick his head above the "miracle and supernatural muddle". This is my personal opinion. (I don't, however, deny that his writing is brilliant scattered with some real gems.). I have heard that Poojya Mata Amritanandamayi Devi, whom I worship as the Universal Mother, has performed miracles. I have no evidence for it. Neither has She made any claims to miracular powers. We have only the testimony of Her devotees for it. I have had Her darshan several times and, on none of these occasions, have I found anything supernatural in what She said or did other than that She is a personification of patience and love, as rightly pointed out by Shri Srikrishnaji, which keeps me incessantly pulled towards Her. I should think that miracles occur spontaneously in the presence of great souls even without their knowledge. Speculating further, I believe, miracles are the ichchasakthi projections of the devotees themselves. No wonder, therefore, that Mother is called "ichchasakthi jnanasakthi kriyasakthi swaroopini" in Lalitha Sahasra Naamavali. But, undergoing gruesome physical changes and agony reminds me of the eerie stuff I have found at some Kundalini sites on the web. Looks like it all depends on the attitude with which we embrace spiritualism. Being a Devi bhaktha, I can appreciate the shadchakras and their usefulness in meditation as long as the object of devotion is the Devi Herself. I can understand if the devotee experiences pleasant feelings like hearing anklet sounds and music (although an advaitin should immediately enquire WHO lights up such sounds). I can also surmise repeat surmise that the chakras can bring about inadvertent harm if meditated upon for the selfish purpose of acquiring powers (siddhis). However, UGK's biography, although sketchy, does not indicate any hankering after siddhis. Then why does he have to undergo all that agony is beyond my comprehension. May be others in our Group can shed some light. Pranams. Madathilnair advaitin, "Harsha" wrote: > Since someone asked about U.G. Krishnamurti, here is a comment and a > question about U.G. from last year. The question was asked of Sri Greg > Goode. I forget what reply Gregji gave. Perhaps he remembers. > > > Paul > Friday, August 31, 2001 8:22 PM > > Greg: > > I was just reading U.G. Krishnamurti's story and he claims he had > profound physical changes as well as mental. Very interesting. I > don't know if these physical changes would necessarily happen to > everyone. They included growing breasts, going through severe pain > and weird stuff like that. Now, I guess he "dies" regularly where > his heart rate slows down and he gasps for air. Plus, his mind is > normally declutched and he has to make an effort to think or declutch > his mind. I don't know if it is enlightenment or Alzheimer's.... > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2002 Report Share Posted February 24, 2002 Namaste Gregji, Yours was a fantastic analysis. Grateful to you for the insights imparted. Best regards. Madathilnair _______________ advaitin, Gregory Goode <goode@D...> wrote: > Namaste Shri Madathilnair, > > You said very fully the same thing I was going to say in my message - linking U.G.'s descriptions to the various Kundalini phenomena. Thanks! > > --Greg > > At 04:33 AM 2/25/02 -0000, madathilnair wrote: > > But, undergoing gruesome physical changes and agony reminds me of the > eerie stuff I have found at some Kundalini sites on the web. Looks > like it all depends on the attitude with which we embrace > spiritualism. > > .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2002 Report Share Posted February 25, 2002 Namaste Shri Madathilnair, You said very fully the same thing I was going to say in my message - linking U.G.'s descriptions to the various Kundalini phenomena. Thanks! --Greg At 04:33 AM 2/25/02 -0000, madathilnair wrote: But, undergoing gruesome physical changes and agony reminds me of the eerie stuff I have found at some Kundalini sites on the web. Looks like it all depends on the attitude with which we embrace spiritualism. ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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