Guest guest Posted March 9, 2002 Report Share Posted March 9, 2002 Hi Warwick, Glad you found the adhyAsa page. The essence of this is really the answer to the question you are now asking. Whenever we start asking about so-called problems with 'ourselves' or 'the world' it is because we are mixing up the real and the unreal. 'I am' is real; 'a person' is unreal. 'There is' is real; 'the world' is unreal. There is only the Self - and that is ultimately all that can be said. All the rest is arguing about the illusion - and the illusion is bound to look different when filtered through differing sets of opinions and beliefs. And no matter what we think about the illusion, it is certain to be wrong. (If it comes to that, whatever we think about reality is going to be wrong, too, since this is beyond words and concepts.) Since there is only Consciousness, it must, by definition, be perfect. Since there is nothing else, how could it not be? As far as 'actions' go, what does this concept mean? There is no free will because there are no 'individuals' to exercise such a thing. And so on... You must have heard all of this sort of stuff before. If you want the authority of a Sage, you can't do much better than Krishna Menon. If you want scriptures, the aShTAvakra gItA is one of my own favourites. But if you want the pramANa of the shruti, the mANDUkyopanishad with gauDapAda's kArikA is the best I am aware of. "Everything should be known to be, by nature, without a beginning, like space. No multiplicity exists anywhere.All entitities are intrinsically peaceful, unoriginated and perfectly free from anxiety. They are always the same and are not different from each other. They are unborn, identical and perfect." (Two sutras from the last section almost at random.) sukhaM chara, Dennis <<You know, (please forgive me if I express myself clumsily or in illogical fashion) I once "saw" that everything that we would ordinarily call "a separate action" is connected with everything else, and that every action, no matter how horrible it might be when viewed from the usual perspective, is in fact an expression of love, is an act of "giving", yes, I think that's not a bad word, "giving". Now, it is not something I can explain, or justify, but I don't doubt that it was a true vision. Hence I'm a bit sceptical with political or eco-fundamentalist plans to "save the world", and it strikes a chord when people like Ramesh Balsekar and Francis Lucille say that we can relax, because everything is exactly as it must be, is perfect in fact. Do the scriptures, does Advaita, have anything to say about this? Anything you have to say would be appreciated.>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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