identity of waking and dream states (was (unknown))

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namaste.

 

Shri Swaminarayanan-ji was questioning in the past few weeks

1. why all of us see the same jAgarat avastha (waking state) event

while each of us have a different dream

2. why there is seeming continuity in jAgarat avastha while one

dream does not follow the other.

 

His questions can be seen re-stated in

 

advaitin/message/12986

 

I responded to that earlier saying that what we impose (due to our

ignorance) on IshwarakalpitamAyA makes the jAgarat avastha appear

continuous. I tried to differentiate between IshwarakalpitamAyA

(which makes the jAgarat avastha appear the same for all in the

waking state) and what we place on top of that in the form of our

own likes and dislikes which is the origination of the samsAra.

And that the dream-state and the wake-up state are identical.

My earlier post on this is at

 

advaitin/message/12930

 

I found support for my understanding in the GauDapAdakArika in

the verses II.9 and II.10

 

II.9 regarding the dream state says

 

svapnAvr^ittAvapi tv antashcetasA kalpitaM tv asat

bahishcetoghr^ItaM sad dr^iShTaM vaitathyam etayoH

 

Even in the state of dream that which is imagined by mind within

is (regarded as) non-existing (asat), while that which is cognized

by mind without is (regarded as) existing (sat); (but) the unreality

of (both of) them is a matter of experience.

 

Here, as I understand, antashcitta is the dream-character while

bahishcitta is the dream-generator. As we wake up from the dream,

we recognize both the antashcitta and bahishcitta to be unreal.

 

Verse II.10 talks of the waking-state.

 

jAgradvr^ittAvapi tv antashcetasA kalpitaM tv asat

bahishcetoghr^ItaM sad yuktaM vaitathyam etayoH

 

In the waking state also, that which is imagined by mind within

is regarded as non-existing (asat), while that which is cognized

by mind without is regarded as existing, (sat); the unreality of

(both of) them is reasonable.

 

Here the antashcitta is the overlaying which we do (e.g. our likes

and dislikes) and the bahishcitta is the IshwarakalpitamAyA (e.g.

all the jIvA-s see the same blue sky). shri GauDapAdA says this

is nothing different from the description of verse II.9.

 

While we are convinced (by experience) of the unreality mentioned

in II.9, we seem to have doubts about the unreality mentioned in

verse II.10. Shri GauDapAdA concludes that both are identical and

both are unreal.

 

 

Regards

Gummuluru Murthy

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