Guest guest Posted April 26, 2002 Report Share Posted April 26, 2002 On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, atagrasin wrote: > > Further, as shri Sunderrajan-ji points out, the claim that > > one is a gunpowder type is itself a detriment to the goal, > > and puts one a few rungs behind. > > > Hi Gummuluru Murthy:There is nobody here claiming anything.An I don't > have any goal.There is nobody here to"put one a few rungs behind"We > have a friendly sharing between brothers.If someone claim to be a > gunpowder type,or anything this is arrogance and what I > called "pretending" to be other than consciousness.This > classifications between aspirants are only pointers,they are only > theoretical concepts. There is only "IT" the pure Consciousness.What > else we could be? > namaste shri atagrasin-ji, I did not say or even imply that you have claimed anything. If my post came out that way, my apologies. What I was trying to say is: while it would *appear* that some are gunpowder-type, and some are charcoal-type, that is not a property of the sAdhaka, but to a stage in the spiritual 'journey'. We cannot even say that charcoal is a more spiritually mature level than gunpowder or vice-versa. We can easily see the example of toTakAcArya, the disciple of shri shankara in this context. Your discussions with shri madathil nair are fascinating. I do not agree fully with what you were saying (in all the threads), but am learning. Regards Gummuluru Murthy -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2002 Report Share Posted April 26, 2002 > Further, as shri Sunderrajan-ji points out, the claim that > one is a gunpowder type is itself a detriment to the goal, > and puts one a few rungs behind. > Hi Gummuluru Murthy:There is nobody here claiming anything.An I don't have any goal.There is nobody here to"put one a few rungs behind"We have a friendly sharing between brothers.If someone claim to be a gunpowder type,or anything this is arrogance and what I called "pretending" to be other than consciousness.This classifications between aspirants are only pointers,they are only theoretical concepts. There is only "IT" the pure Consciousness.What else we could be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2002 Report Share Posted April 26, 2002 advaitin, Gummuluru Murthy <gmurthy@m...> wrote: HI Gummuluru Murthy:My apologies to you.I re-check your last post and I find it bring light about the issue of the types of spiritual aspirants,I am learning from all of yours postings too.Thanks regards atagrasin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2002 Report Share Posted April 30, 2002 In this context,shri Venkatram,desciple of Baba Narmade Har, while preaching the gist of Gaudapada's following sloka, "Yam bhavam darshayet yasya tam bhavam sa tu pashyati Tam chavati sa bhutwaasou tad gruhahaa samupaiti tam!" , explained as follows: If the guru preaches a mantra that reads as follows,"Eka pucham chatur bahum, humphat swahaahaa" (meaning , Hail the entity with one tail and four limbs ! ), the desciple unquestioningly chants that Mantra in full faith and truly attains his goal of realisation. Here the mantra acts as a potent impeller and the desciple's unfettered devotion and faith in his guru is all that matters. The Sadhaka's conviction is all in all in the realhm of Spirituality. Hari OM ! Swaminarayan Gummuluru Murthy <gmurthy wrote: On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, atagrasin wrote: > > Further, as shri Sunderrajan-ji points out, the claim that > > one is a gunpowder type is itself a detriment to the goal, > > and puts one a few rungs behind. > > > Hi Gummuluru Murthy:There is nobody here claiming anything.An I don't > have any goal.There is nobody here to"put one a few rungs behind"We > have a friendly sharing between brothers.If someone claim to be a > gunpowder type,or anything this is arrogance and what I > called "pretending" to be other than consciousness.This > classifications between aspirants are only pointers,they are only > theoretical concepts. There is only "IT" the pure Consciousness.What > else we could be? > namaste shri atagrasin-ji, I did not say or even imply that you have claimed anything. If my post came out that way, my apologies. What I was trying to say is: while it would *appear* that some are gunpowder-type, and some are charcoal-type, that is not a property of the sAdhaka, but to a stage in the spiritual 'journey'. We cannot even say that charcoal is a more spiritually mature level than gunpowder or vice-versa. We can easily see the example of toTakAcArya, the disciple of shri shankara in this context. Your discussions with shri madathil nair are fascinating. I do not agree fully with what you were saying (in all the threads), but am learning. Regards Gummuluru Murthy -------------------------------- Discussion of Shankara's Advaita Vedanta Philosophy of nonseparablity of Atman and Brahman. Advaitin List Archives available at: http://www.eScribe.com/culture/advaitin/ To Post a message send an email to : advaitin Messages Archived at: advaitin/messages Health - your guide to health and wellness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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