Guest guest Posted April 29, 2002 Report Share Posted April 29, 2002 Psychology and Metaphysics 10 Let us pause a bit and reconsider the grounds we have covered and return to the question of methodology. what I am doing may appear like the Cartesian Meditations but not exactly for I do not conclude 'cogito ergo sum" and so forth though I do share with Descartes that I am an autonomous individual, one who is subject to on one ( Appar : naam yaarkkum kudi alloom), a notion also available in the indic traditions in various ways. I have come to SEE that I am, that enjoy PRESENCE only because in my reflection I accommodate the possibility of DEATH not onlyof myself but the whole world and that there are Black Holes everywhere that can bring about death but against which I live, enjoy presence and the seeing that there are deimons who bless me with PRESENCE by fighting off the Black Holes. This way of looking and understanding my presence is NOT Cartesian though it can be said to be Saivite for right from the ancient days the Saivites have been concerned with the mystery of death and because of which they recognized the destructive-regenerative processes and also BEING as the GROUND of these. But before we come to all these again in greater depths, let us see some issues on methodology. The SEEING and the Hermeneutic Science. We must note that what I have said follows purely through a process of REFLECTIVE ANALYSIS of the FACTICAL and hence something commonly known. In disclosing certain truths , I do not quote scriptures messiahs, Jagadgurus, Sadgurus and what not. The study of scriptures and the edifying words of these socalled gurus may not be useless but they hold the danger of CLOSING my mind for surreptitiously most of these njanies want to enjoy the pleasures of Ego Inflation, want to enjoy the feeling of being a god-like individual by having a large crowd of worshippers. So they are NOT objective and whatever they say may turn out to be an expression of the Will to Power that Nietsche observed and because of which he became Nihilistic. In the Indian scene we have the Vedic Bramanahs and the Vedantic community whose sole interest would be establishing the Supremacy of the Vedas and the Vedanta texts and through claiming special rights over them enjoy the EGO Inflation of a kind oblivious to the fact that millions are genuinely religious without knowing a single word of the Vedas. Such individuals exists in all religions, the mullahs of Islam, the Fathers of Christianity , the Rabbies of Judaism and what not, people who want to be gods. The fact is the WISDOM is already DEEP within me only that I have not been able to SEE it so far and gain a vision of it. The Absolute Understanding the lights up EXISTENCE for me is NOT in the Vedas Bible or Alkoran and such other scriptures that may crop up in the future. It is WITHIN ME and I need not sit with twigs for campfires in front of a Rishi to gain this wisdom. I just have to THINK in a certain way so that I can SEE what I have not been to able to see so far. So the first conclusion is that the Science I am concerned with is the SCIENCE of SEEING, of gaining visions into realms that I have bypassed or failed to see or yet to see because hidden and concealed. This kind of science where the practices unable the person to SEE MORE and because of that UNDERSTAND MORE is the Hermeneutic Science, hermeneutic because it is concerned with UNDERSTANDING. The Hermeneutic and Positivistic. But it may be pointed out immediately that seeing is what even the positive sciences do as they are concerned with OBSERVATIONS whether with the senses or their instrumental extensions and hence the distinctions are not valid. But this objection is misplaced for the SEEING that the hermeneutic sciences talk about are quite different and in which the scientific instrumental observations can be accommodated but which at the same time goes well beyond it. But how? In behaving as the positive scientist I assume the mode of Being the dispassionate observer, one who only witnesses what transpires , one who does NOT allow the individual prejudices to intrude into the collection of data and their statistical analysis and so forth. My self and its concerns remain bracketed out when I behave like a scientist and it is this pushing the self into the background that allows me to remain OBJECTIVE and hence SEE the same as another individual who has also buried his own self concerns. The subjectivity is hygienically PURE , pure in terms of prejudices of the self. What are OBSERVED are out there in the world and anyone who has reconstituted his self as the PURE OBSERVER-SELF, can see the SAME as MYSELF and hence be in agreement with me. I see that tree over there as the Coconut tree and so would another person like me but not the paranoiac who would see that tree as a ghost, the rope as a snake and what not. When the observations are factical there is NO adhyasa or aaropitam etc., the thing is seen as to what it is and as it shows itself from within itself so that the vision is NOT distorted by my paranoia or phobia and what not. Let us call this the sensorial seeing, the kind of seeing where only the SENSES and their extensions that are sensitive only to the PHYSICAL STIMULI are possible. And what is wrong in this? Nothing wrong as long as the objects taken for study are PHYSICAL but certainly something immensely wrong if the spirit of science is allowed to be imprisoned thus and the notion of science itself becomes restricted to such a positivism. For in this positivistic attitudes the self remains in the background , it essential concerns forgotten and it is imprisoned to be only a dispassionate observer , oblivious to its real needs and hence the real Understanding of self forever beyond its reach. When the scientific mood withdraws there emerges passions and all kinds the prejudices of various sorts -- racial, linguistic, religious and what not. The person is no ore dispassionate and objective but a fanatic, a rogue , a megalomaniac, a terrorist who wants to bring the whole down at his fet through acts of wanton destruction etc. etc. With these possibilities as my possibilities also I see that in maintaining the observational neutrality I have SUPPRESSED my REAL SELF which is really immensely bestial and full of prejudices of various kinds. I see that in becoming truly observational I can assume the attitude of a dispassionate observer and in that attitude my self is not that which is observed but that which does the observing. Now when that mood passes away, I SEE my real self in that as well in the various prejudices with such I begin tofunction my none scientific life. function. When I take my behavior as a whole and not just the positivistic , I see that while I am capable of the pure physicalistic seeing I am also capable of seeing MORE. Most importantly I see MY SELF as that DEEP STRUCTURE of the all the manifest Praxis that is seen by me and as well all others. The totality of my praxis, including the positivistic scientific as well as the religious, metaphysical poetical, shamanistic and what not becomes the TEXT with these observable elements of behavior as the SURFACE STRUCTURE but the deep structure of which is MY SELF. I cannot see my self with the senses and their extensions but nevertheless I CAN SEE provided I appropriate all my praxis as the Surface Structure of a TEXT and seek my SELF as the Deep Structure of it. This kind of seeing that involves INTERPRETATIONS , inferring from the surface structural features to something present at the DEPTHS as that which CAUSES AGENTIVELY the features of the surface structure is what I shall call Hermeneutic Seeing and clearly it is in the course of such a seeing that the self can be understood in its essence as it is in itself. Genuine Psychology can be practiced only as Hermeneutic Science and this is what the best of the Indians have been doing but unfortunately thrown off stage by the Vedism of the Brahmanahs who see a threat to their Inflated Ego once this scientific temper gains ground. For then there will NO AUTHORITIES needed at all for attaining self-understanding, the services of the Vedas and the Brahmanahs who claim special rights over them and the mythology that only the VEDAS can disclose the TRUTH all fall to ground as untruths. Let me conclude this essay by saying that the hermeneutic seeing is the beginning of a vast range seeing that all of us are capable of and in which lies the real adventures of the genuinely metaphysical life that also becomes a kind of Depth Psychology ======================================================= Dear friends! 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Guest guest Posted April 30, 2002 Report Share Posted April 30, 2002 DrKL, >The fact is the WISDOM is already DEEP within me only that I have not been able to SEE it so far and gain a vision of it. The Absolute Understanding the lights up EXISTENCE for me is NOT in the Vedas Bible or Alkoran and such other scriptures that may crop up in the future. It is WITHIN ME and I need not sit with twigs for campfires in front of a Rishi to gain this wisdom. I just have to THINK in a certain way so that I can SEE what I have not been to able to see so far.> When the thinking stops the Wisdom dawns. -- Vis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2002 Report Share Posted April 30, 2002 Dear viswanathan, Yes, I guess you are right. But then you have to think and continue to think till it dawns that thinking is no more necessary and the practice of Silence is now the best. Loga "R. Viswanathan" wrote: > DrKL, > >The fact is the WISDOM is already DEEP within me only that I have not been > able to SEE it so far and gain a vision of it. The Absolute Understanding > the lights up EXISTENCE for me is NOT in the Vedas Bible or Alkoran and such > other scriptures that may crop up in the future. It is WITHIN ME and I need > not sit with twigs for campfires in front of a Rishi to gain this wisdom. I > just have to THINK in a certain way so that I can SEE what I have not been > to able to see so far.> > > When the thinking stops the Wisdom dawns. > > -- Vis > > > Discussion of Shankara's Advaita Vedanta Philosophy of nonseparablity of Atman and Brahman. > Advaitin List Archives available at: http://www.eScribe.com/culture/advaitin/ > To Post a message send an email to : advaitin > Messages Archived at: advaitin/messages > > > > Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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