Guest guest Posted May 8, 2002 Report Share Posted May 8, 2002 Hari Om, Can any of the learned ones please tell me more about the concept of panchikarana. I have gone thro commentaries on Atma Bodha from shri parthasarathy where there is mention of this concept and it is till not clear to me. Thanks in Advance. Ram Prasad _______________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2002 Report Share Posted May 11, 2002 Namaste Ram Prasadji, I thought someone will respond to your mail in detail. However, I am very much disappointed not to have seen any replies yet. As I know, the details are there in Sankara's "Thathwabodha". I don't have a copy. I read it very long back and cannot claim to have understood it at all. In fact, it made no sense to me and I thought it was rather odd on Sankara's part(with all my respects) to have attempted such an empirical explanation. May be I am wrong. I, therefore, request our knowledgeable moderators and members to present relevant details with a thorough explanation. Many in our list including myself would very much appreciate such a kind gesture. Pranams. Madathil Nair __________________ advaitin, "Ram Prasad" <ram_cnr@h...> wrote: > Hari Om, > > Can any of the learned ones please tell me more about the concept of > panchikarana. I have gone thro commentaries on Atma Bodha from shri > parthasarathy where there is mention of this concept and it is till not > clear to me. > > Thanks in Advance. > > Ram Prasad > > > _______________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2002 Report Share Posted May 11, 2002 Dear Ram Prasadji and Madathil Nairji, I will try to answer your question. However, I am fully occupied tonight, but I hope to post it tomorrow. Very best wishes Stig Lundgren - "madathilnair" <madathilnair <advaitin> Saturday, May 11, 2002 8:47 PM Re: Want a detailed note on Panchikarana > Namaste Ram Prasadji, > > I thought someone will respond to your mail in detail. However, I am > very much disappointed not to have seen any replies yet. As I know, > the details are there in Sankara's "Thathwabodha". I don't have a > copy. I read it very long back and cannot claim to have understood > it at all. In fact, it made no sense to me and I thought it was > rather odd on Sankara's part(with all my respects) to have attempted > such an empirical explanation. May be I am wrong. I, therefore, > request our knowledgeable moderators and members to present relevant > details with a thorough explanation. Many in our list including > myself would very much appreciate such a kind gesture. > > Pranams. > > Madathil Nair > __________________ > > advaitin, "Ram Prasad" <ram_cnr@h...> wrote: > > Hari Om, > > > > Can any of the learned ones please tell me more about the concept > of > > panchikarana. I have gone thro commentaries on Atma Bodha from shri > > parthasarathy where there is mention of this concept and it is till > not > > clear to me. > > > > Thanks in Advance. > > > > Ram Prasad > > > > > > _______________ > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: > http://messenger.msn.com > > > ------------------------ Sponsor ---------------------~--> > Buy Stock for $4 > and no minimums. > FREE Money 2002. > http://us.click./orkH0C/n97DAA/Ey.GAA/XUWolB/TM > ------------------------------ ------~-> > > Discussion of Shankara's Advaita Vedanta Philosophy of nonseparablity of Atman and Brahman. > Advaitin List Archives available at: http://www.eScribe.com/culture/advaitin/ > To Post a message send an email to : advaitin > Messages Archived at: advaitin/messages > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2002 Report Share Posted May 11, 2002 Namaste: I have provided below an excellent explanation that I came across from the referenced site. I am also looking forward to see Stig's scholarly posting on the same topic. I strongly recommend everyone to visit the site http://www.hindusim.co.za and you will certainly appreciate the scholarly materials present there. The above website hinduism.co.za/ has been awarded 1.The Study Web Excellence Award 2.The Internext Gold Site Gold Medal award 3.The Elite Site Award 4.William Rainey Harper College (USA), Geography Student's Top Ten Internet Sites - Spring 1999 5 The Encyclopaedia Brittanica : Best of the Webs (May 2000) warmest regards, Ram Chandran ========================= Panchikaranam, A small treatise on Vedanta By Sri Sankaracharya Source: http://www.hinduism.co.za/three.htm 1. AUM. The VIRAT is said to be the sum total of all the quintuplicated five elements and their effects. This is called the gross body of the Atman (soul). Waking is that state, where the senses give rise to the knowledge of objects. The Atman, which identifies Itself with both the waking state and the gross body, is known as the VISHVA These three (the gross body, the waking state and the VISHVA) together are represented by the first letter `A' in the syllable `AUM'. [Note: `Quintuplicated': A particular process by which the five elementary constituents of the universe are said to be compounded with one another to form grosser entities that serve as units in the composition of the physical universe.] 2. The five unquintuplicated rudimentary elements and their effect, the subtle body, both together constitute what is called the HIRANYAGARBHA. The material subtle body has seventeen parts, viz. the five vital forces, the ten organs of perception and action, the mind and the intellect. This is said to be the subtle body of the Atman (soul). 3. When the sense-organs are quiescent or withdrawn, the knowledge arising out of impressions of the waking state and the imaginary objects there perceived, are together called the dream state. The TAIJASA is the Atman which identifies Itself with both the dream state and the subtle body. These three, i.e. – the subtle body, the dream state and the TAIJASA – are represented by the second letter `U' in `AUM'. 4. Bound up with reflection of Pure-consciousness, the Nescience, which hides the Atman and is the cause of both the gross and the subtle bodies, is called the `AVYAAKRTA' or undifferentiated. This is the causal body of the Atman. This is neither existent nor non-existent, nor even both existent and non-existent; neither different from, nor identical with, nor both different from and identical with, the Atman. This Nescience is neither composite, nor non-composite, nor both composite and non-composite, but removable by the knowledge of the identity of Brahman and the Atman alone. When all thoughts cease and the determinative intellect, too, lapses into its causal condition, the state of deep-sleep appears. The personality appropriating these two, i.e., the causal-body and the deep-sleep state is described as `PRAJNA'. These three (the causal-body Nescience, the deep-sleep state and the PRAJNA) are symbolised by the last letter `M' in `AUM'. Now, `A' the waking-personality, should be resolved into `U', the dream-personality, and the `U' into `M' i.e., the deep-sleep personality. Again, the `M' should be reduced into `AUM' and the `AUM' into `I'. I am, the Atman, the Witness of all, the absolute of the nature of Pure Consciousness; I am neither Nescience nor even its effect but I am Brahman alone, Eternally Pure, Ever Enlightened, Eternally Free and Existence Absolute. I am the Bliss Absolute, One without a second and the Innermost Consciousness. Remaining in this state of absolute identification is what is called `SAMADHI' or the Super-conscious state. `Thou art That', `I am Brahman', `Consciousness-Bliss is Brahman', `This Self is Brahman', etc. – all these Srutis, i.e., the Upanisadic sayings (known as Mahavakyas or the great dictum) are direct evidences to the identity of the Atman, the individual soul, and Brahman. This is what is called `PANCHKARANAM' or quintuplication. Here ends the small treatise named `PANCHIKARANAM' by Bhagavan Sri Sankaracharya.. This site also contains further elaboration of PANCHIKARANAM By Sri Suresvaracharya (Sri Sankaracharya's worthy disciple) advaitin, "madathilnair" <madathilnair> wrote: > Namaste Ram Prasadji, > > I thought someone will respond to your mail in detail. However, I am > very much disappointed not to have seen any replies yet. As I know, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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