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White Light - Dreams - Plasma Lamp - Part 1

 

Over three decades ago, before knowledge about TM, Vedas, Rosicrucians,

Advaita, et al, as a scientist at Raytheon Research Laboratories, I

experienced numerous extraordinary sightings and vivid dream type phenomena

while in the waking state. I was developing a 100 kw high-pressure argon

vortex plasma lamp that could produce light up to four times the intensity of

the sun. This lamp was outrageously ferocious, capable of giving instant

sunburns, creating considerable ozone in the local environment. The purpose

of the lamp was to 'pump' or 'excite' (to optically transfer energy to) a

variety of solid state crystal lasers such as ruby that were simultaneously

being 'grown' by the Research Division. The effort was part of an early star

wars type program where presumably a paraboloidal optical antenna might

eventually couple energy from the sun to lasers located on satellites.

 

Quite startling though, I one day found that my consciousness had also been

'excited'. I quite inadvertently experienced rather extraordinary 'psychic'

phenomena. I saw purple aura around all green vegetation for many hours after

running the lamp, even while driving my car. I also saw all sorts of hazy

fog-like animal creatures like monkeys jumping about in the trees. I kept

reminding myself that I had never seen such things before. In addition,

dreaming states were simultaneously witnessed along with ordinary waking

state. Upon closing the eyes a vivid dream could unfold while being

simultaneously fully aware of the waking environment. Two states of

consciousness exhibiting themselves simultaneously. So, exactly what

happened here and what sort of theoretical model can offer an explanation?

For one having such an experience, there needs to be a reason. No, I was not

going mad. There needs to be some theoretical model around which to

understand such phenomena with intelligence.

-- to be continued

 

jai guru dev,

 

Edmond

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In a message dated 6/11/2002 2:08:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

sunderh writes:

 

> So the model of the phenomena you describe may simply be

> neuronal excitation by physical factors. Stroboscopic exposure is a

> particular test used by epileptologists/neurlogists to induce and

> detect epileptic foci not detected by surface EEG.

>

 

Oh yes, there is no doubt that some type of neuronal excitation by physical

factors was occurring here (yet to be expounded upon after introducing more

data), and as you might suspect, I also became quite conversant with a number

of folks in the medical world at the time, especially as all my physics

mentors closely surrounding me were not at all sympathetic to the nature of

events surrounding the plasma lamp experiences.

 

Yes, I was also involved with stroboscopic type things at the same time,

especially with a research psychologist at a Veteran's Hospital and another

physicist out of the US Air Force Research Center who had learned to send

Morse Code by turning On and Off his brain Alpha Rhythm. I knew Morse Code

(being a Radio Ham) and this was found absolutely fascinating. To learn to

do this, the psychologist put me into his Magnetic Shielded EEG Chamber and

tied my Alpha Rhythm output into an active feedback loop to a Light Bulb in

the darkened EEG Chamber. One then rather quickly gets the knack of turning

the Alpha Rhythm On and Off, though at first a little disquieting (I have no

known epilepsy symptoms, either then or now), something like strobing light

that is synchronized to one's Alpha Rhythm. In cooperation with many

fantastic joint experiments, I here wound a first huge, large and very heavy

inductor antenna (I was also in graduate school studying physics under a

radio astronomer) to catch some of the magnetics of such brain rhythms. It

was a wonderful incredibly fast growing time of my life, almost magic like,

as the universe started to unfold at an extremely rapid pace, until . . .

until . . . until the extreme heavy doses of white light, when and from where

many facets of my life all fell apart, simultaneously. This is when I turned

about face, East to Vedaland and West to Esoterica, for no one else knew

and/or was willing to listen. --continuing--

 

jai guru dev,

 

Edmond

 

 

 

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Jaya Guru Deva Edmondji Jaya Guru Deva

 

Is true that you were not going mad

 

This breakthrough you are describeing must have been totally intense by any

standard

 

Dhanyawaad aur Pranams Mitra

 

DharmaDev Arya

edmeasure <edmeasure

advaitin <advaitin>

Tuesday, June 11, 2002 10:24 AM

White Light - Dreams - Plasma Lamp - Part 1

 

 

White Light - Dreams - Plasma Lamp - Part 1

 

Over three decades ago, before knowledge about TM, Vedas, Rosicrucians,

Advaita, et al, as a scientist at Raytheon Research Laboratories, I

experienced numerous extraordinary sightings and vivid dream type phenomena

while in the waking state. I was developing a 100 kw high-pressure argon

vortex plasma lamp that could produce light up to four times the intensity

of

the sun. This lamp was outrageously ferocious, capable of giving instant

sunburns, creating considerable ozone in the local environment. The purpose

of the lamp was to 'pump' or 'excite' (to optically transfer energy to) a

variety of solid state crystal lasers such as ruby that were simultaneously

being 'grown' by the Research Division. The effort was part of an early

star

wars type program where presumably a paraboloidal optical antenna might

eventually couple energy from the sun to lasers located on satellites.

 

Quite startling though, I one day found that my consciousness had also been

'excited'. I quite inadvertently experienced rather extraordinary 'psychic'

phenomena. I saw purple aura around all green vegetation for many hours

after

running the lamp, even while driving my car. I also saw all sorts of hazy

fog-like animal creatures like monkeys jumping about in the trees. I kept

reminding myself that I had never seen such things before. In addition,

dreaming states were simultaneously witnessed along with ordinary waking

state. Upon closing the eyes a vivid dream could unfold while being

simultaneously fully aware of the waking environment. Two states of

consciousness exhibiting themselves simultaneously. So, exactly what

happened here and what sort of theoretical model can offer an explanation?

For one having such an experience, there needs to be a reason. No, I was

not

going mad. There needs to be some theoretical model around which to

understand such phenomena with intelligence.

-- to be continued

 

jai guru dev,

 

Edmond

 

Discussion of Shankara's Advaita Vedanta Philosophy of nonseparablity of

Atman and Brahman.

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Namaste,

 

Over 5 decades ago, Dr. Wilder Penfield, the famous neuro-

surgeon, at the Montreal Neurological Institute, had described the

phenomena of 'panoramic memory' after electrically stimulating

certain parts of the Temporal lobe cortex of the brain. The patient

could actually relive whole scenes from the past, retaining

consciousness of present environment [of course under local

anesthesia].

 

Certain forms of epilesy with a temporal lobe focus have the

same capabilty of producing extremely diverse phenomena, sometimes

producing fugue states, sometimes multiple persaonality, extreme

religiosity or paranoid states, bizarre hallucinations, trance

states, etc. [Dostoevsky had suffered from TLE syndrome]. This has

formed a vast field of inquiry in medico-legal crime circles.

 

So the model of the phenomena you describe may simply be

neuronal excitation by physical factors. Stroboscopic exposure is a

particular test used by epileptologists/neurlogists to induce and

detect epileptic foci not detected by surface EEG.

 

 

Regards,

 

Sunder

 

 

 

 

advaitin, edmeasure@a... wrote:

> White Light - Dreams - Plasma Lamp - Part 1

There needs to be some theoretical model around which to

> understand such phenomena with intelligence.

> -- to be continued

>

> jai guru dev,

>

> Edmond

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Namaste,

 

I can appreciate the essence of this post in the sense that most

epilipetics (particularly temporal lobe) see auras before a fit.

 

Extending this scientific fact, can anybody please tell us if there

is a brain pathology (or chemistry) behind being an advaitin,

particularly a rabid neo or a traditonal one? There could well be!

If the answer is yes, then I can close shop and go home to await my

next fit of "non-dualistic rapture", which of course can be read with

an EEG!

 

Pranams.

 

Madathil Nair

_________________________

 

advaitin, "sunderh" <sunderh> wrote:

> Namaste,

>

> Over 5 decades ago, Dr. Wilder Penfield, the famous neuro-

> surgeon, at the Montreal Neurological Institute, had described the

> phenomena of 'panoramic memory' after electrically stimulating

> certain parts of the Temporal lobe cortex of the brain. The patient

> could actually relive whole scenes from the past, retaining

> consciousness of present environment [of course under local

> anesthesia].

>

> Certain forms of epilesy with a temporal lobe focus have

the

> same capabilty of producing extremely diverse phenomena, sometimes

> producing fugue states, sometimes multiple persaonality, extreme

> religiosity or paranoid states, bizarre hallucinations, trance

> states, etc. [Dostoevsky had suffered from TLE syndrome]. This has

> formed a vast field of inquiry in medico-legal crime circles.

>

> So the model of the phenomena you describe may simply be

> neuronal excitation by physical factors. Stroboscopic exposure is a

> particular test used by epileptologists/neurlogists to induce and

> detect epileptic foci not detected by surface EEG.

>

>

> Regards,

>

> Sunder

>

>

>

>

> advaitin, edmeasure@a... wrote:

> > White Light - Dreams - Plasma Lamp - Part 1

> There needs to be some theoretical model around which to

> > understand such phenomena with intelligence.

> > -- to be continued

> >

> > jai guru dev,

> >

> > Edmond

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Dear Friends

 

Is true we should all probably be fitted with portable EEG with wires to the

head at one time or another for feedback

 

Would also allow us to be easily identified in public and make all of us Grand

conversation pieces in social gatherings : )

 

Am sure we would all be quite popular and in demand : )

 

Pranams

 

DharmaDev Arya

madathilnair <madathilnair

advaitin <advaitin>

Tuesday, June 11, 2002 11:57 AM

Re: White Light - Dreams - Plasma Lamp - Part 1

 

 

Namaste,

 

I can appreciate the essence of this post in the sense that most

epilipetics (particularly temporal lobe) see auras before a fit.

 

Extending this scientific fact, can anybody please tell us if there

is a brain pathology (or chemistry) behind being an advaitin,

particularly a rabid neo or a traditonal one? There could well be!

If the answer is yes, then I can close shop and go home to await my

next fit of "non-dualistic rapture", which of course can be read with

an EEG!

 

Pranams.

 

Madathil Nair

_________________________

 

advaitin, "sunderh" <sunderh> wrote:

> Namaste,

>

> Over 5 decades ago, Dr. Wilder Penfield, the famous neuro-

> surgeon, at the Montreal Neurological Institute, had described the

> phenomena of 'panoramic memory' after electrically stimulating

> certain parts of the Temporal lobe cortex of the brain. The patient

> could actually relive whole scenes from the past, retaining

> consciousness of present environment [of course under local

> anesthesia].

>

> Certain forms of epilesy with a temporal lobe focus have

the

> same capabilty of producing extremely diverse phenomena, sometimes

> producing fugue states, sometimes multiple persaonality, extreme

> religiosity or paranoid states, bizarre hallucinations, trance

> states, etc. [Dostoevsky had suffered from TLE syndrome]. This has

> formed a vast field of inquiry in medico-legal crime circles.

>

> So the model of the phenomena you describe may simply be

> neuronal excitation by physical factors. Stroboscopic exposure is a

> particular test used by epileptologists/neurlogists to induce and

> detect epileptic foci not detected by surface EEG.

>

>

> Regards,

>

> Sunder

>

>

>

>

> advaitin, edmeasure@a... wrote:

> > White Light - Dreams - Plasma Lamp - Part 1

> There needs to be some theoretical model around which to

> > understand such phenomena with intelligence.

> > -- to be continued

> >

> > jai guru dev,

> >

> > Edmond

 

 

Discussion of Shankara's Advaita Vedanta Philosophy of nonseparablity of

Atman and Brahman.

Advaitin List Archives available at:

http://www.eScribe.com/culture/advaitin/

To Post a message send an email to : advaitin

Messages Archived at: advaitin/messages

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Namaste,

 

The interesting part of TLE is not the pre-ictal aura, but the

ictal and post-ictal (ictus = 'fit') phenomena, which are extremely

complex activities, including violent crimes, with no memory for the

events, and almost in a state of a 'robotic' possession by another

personality.

 

The pathology in spiritual pursuit appears only if one pushes

oneself harder than what one is prepared for : the reason for having

a teacher who can gauge the disciple's strengths/weaknesses, moral

preparation, etc. Casualties in all types of yoga practice are well-

known. Many have tried the advaitic fits with the help of LSD, and

come to grievous results.

 

Regards,

 

Sunder

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

advaitin, "madathilnair" <madathilnair> wrote:

> Namaste,

>

> I can appreciate the essence of this post in the sense that most

> epilipetics (particularly temporal lobe) see auras before a fit.

>

> Extending this scientific fact, can anybody please tell us if there

> is a brain pathology (or chemistry) behind being an advaitin,

> particularly a rabid neo or a traditonal one? There could well

be!

> If the answer is yes, then I can close shop and go home to await my

> next fit of "non-dualistic rapture", which of course can be read

with

> an EEG!

>

> Pranams.

>

> Madathil Nair

>

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Namaste,

 

Thanks.

 

I only wanted to drive home the point that, of late, this "brain"

fellow is taking central stage in our discussions much to the

disadvantage of advaita. Shall we not push him back to where he

rightly belongs and resume talking about what lights up the brain and

the rest of the worlds? A "brain explanation" can be found for

everything that is happening to us if we look for it. No doubt, we

would be expanding our "scientific knowledge" that way but only at

the cost of aggrandizing Ignorance (avidya)!

 

Regards.

 

Madathil Nair

_____

 

advaitin, "sunderh" <sunderh> wrote:

> Namaste,

>

> The interesting part of TLE is not the pre-ictal aura, but

the

> ictal and post-ictal (ictus = 'fit') phenomena, which are extremely

> complex activities, including violent crimes, with no memory for

the

> events, and almost in a state of a 'robotic' possession by another

> personality.

>

> The pathology in spiritual pursuit appears only if one

pushes

> oneself harder than what one is prepared for : the reason for

having

> a teacher who can gauge the disciple's strengths/weaknesses, moral

> preparation, etc. Casualties in all types of yoga practice are

well-

> known. Many have tried the advaitic fits with the help of LSD, and

> come to grievous results.

>

> Regards,

>

> Sunder

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Namaskar

 

Apologies for asking this however could the term advaitic fit be explained

 

Is this an accepted term that attempts to describe a seldom seen type of

Kundalini Experience connected to Advaitin practice

 

Thanks for your help as have never heard this term used

 

DharmaDev Arya

 

 

madathilnair <madathilnair

advaitin <advaitin>

Tuesday, June 11, 2002 9:47 PM

Re: White Light - Dreams - Plasma Lamp - Part 1

 

 

Namaste,

 

Thanks.

 

I only wanted to drive home the point that, of late, this "brain"

fellow is taking central stage in our discussions much to the

disadvantage of advaita. Shall we not push him back to where he

rightly belongs and resume talking about what lights up the brain and

the rest of the worlds? A "brain explanation" can be found for

everything that is happening to us if we look for it. No doubt, we

would be expanding our "scientific knowledge" that way but only at

the cost of aggrandizing Ignorance (avidya)!

 

Regards.

 

Madathil Nair

_____

 

advaitin, "sunderh" <sunderh> wrote:

> Namaste,

>

> The interesting part of TLE is not the pre-ictal aura, but

the

> ictal and post-ictal (ictus = 'fit') phenomena, which are extremely

> complex activities, including violent crimes, with no memory for

the

> events, and almost in a state of a 'robotic' possession by another

> personality.

>

> The pathology in spiritual pursuit appears only if one

pushes

> oneself harder than what one is prepared for : the reason for

having

> a teacher who can gauge the disciple's strengths/weaknesses, moral

> preparation, etc. Casualties in all types of yoga practice are

well-

> known. Many have tried the advaitic fits with the help of LSD, and

> come to grievous results.

>

> Regards,

>

> Sunder

 

 

 

Discussion of Shankara's Advaita Vedanta Philosophy of nonseparablity of

Atman and Brahman.

Advaitin List Archives available at:

http://www.eScribe.com/culture/advaitin/

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Messages Archived at: advaitin/messages

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Sorry, Sir. There is no such term. Apologies as my bad sense of

humour led to this confusion.

Madathil Nair

 

 

advaitin, "ShiningLotus" <shininglotus@c...> wrote:

> Namaskar

>

> Apologies for asking this however could the term advaitic fit be

explained

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Namaste,

 

Agree whole-heartedly!

 

Regards,

 

Sunder

 

 

advaitin, "madathilnair" <madathilnair> wrote:

> Namaste,

>

> Thanks.

>

> I only wanted to drive home the point that, of late, this "brain"

> fellow is taking central stage in our discussions much to the

> disadvantage of advaita. Shall we not push him back to where he

> rightly belongs and resume talking about what lights up the brain and

> the rest of the worlds? A "brain explanation" can be found for

> everything that is happening to us if we look for it. No doubt, we

> would be expanding our "scientific knowledge" that way but only at

> the cost of aggrandizing Ignorance (avidya)!

>

> Regards.

>

> Madathil Nair

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Dear Madathilji

 

No apology needed and am thanking you for the clarification as sounded really

different there for a minute and now am really glad we dont have members

suffereing from Advaitin Fits

 

Actually I am thinking you have coined a phrase that will live forever as does

Tantrum Yoga The Latest Rage on the Path to Ire Consciousness found in the book

Driveing Your Own Karma by Swami Beyondananda

 

Thanks

 

DharmaDev Arya

madathilnair <madathilnair

advaitin <advaitin>

Wednesday, June 12, 2002 1:37 AM

Re: White Light - Dreams - Plasma Lamp - Part 1

 

 

Sorry, Sir. There is no such term. Apologies as my bad sense of

humour led to this confusion.

Madathil Nair

 

advaitin, "ShiningLotus" <shininglotus@c...> wrote:

> Namaskar

>

> Apologies for asking this however could the term advaitic fit be

explained

 

 

 

Discussion of Shankara's Advaita Vedanta Philosophy of nonseparablity of

Atman and Brahman.

Advaitin List Archives available at:

http://www.eScribe.com/culture/advaitin/

To Post a message send an email to : advaitin

Messages Archived at: advaitin/messages

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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