finally...rollin' out the big guns (with flowers)

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advaitin, f maiello <egodust> wrote:

> hariH OM!

 

G'Day!

 

parabrahman is

> equated in this sense to what is also referred to as

> "the state beyond the Fourth" [or turiya], which is

> turiyatita.

 

Oh. These words are new for me, I like learning about them. Thanks. I

wonder if the Buddhist term anatman might be kinda like parabrahman?

 

but these [parabrahmam and turiyatita]

> really hold the idea that brahman is both its Relative

> and Absolute states or saguna and nirguna. somehow

> systems of ideologies got crossed and these two terms

> were added to explain the holistic value of brahman,

> viz. that It isn't confined to being the

> Undifferentiated or Unmanifest nirguna only! these

> two words/ideas should be seen as substratums of and

> not representing as anything beyond. ("cabeesh?"

> [understand?]

 

as the italians would say.. "if not, i

> got a friend who'll make you an 'idea-offer' you can't

> refuse.." :-))

 

hehe:-)))

>

> perfection only exists *conceptually* in contrast to

> imperfection. no? well it makes enough sense to me

> to get the relentless Mind-beast off *my* back

> anyway.. :-)

>

> namaste,

> frank

>

 

Life is the great Perfection. And it's worth living.

 

Ok. Now you give me an excuse to use this quote below. I find it

quite synchronous that many of our learned members are touching

issues that reappear somehow in anothers posts.

 

Sunder wrote:

>>There is a famous verse in the Bhagavadgita - 2:69

 

"What is night to all beings, therein the self-controlled one is

awake. Where all beings are awake, that is the night of the sage who

sees."<<

 

These wanderings of the suns, these stars at play

In the due measure that they chose of old,

Nor only these, but all the immense array

Of objects that long Time, far Space can hold,

 

Are divine moments. They are thoughts that form,

They are vision in the Self of things august

And therefore grandly real. Rule & norm

Are processes that they themselves adjust.

 

The Self of things is not their outward view,

A Force within decides. That Force is He;

His movement is teh shape of things we knew,

Movement of Thought is Space & Time. A free

 

And sovereign master of His world within,

He is not bound by what He does or makes,

He is not bound by virtue or by sin,

Awake who sleeps & when He sleeps wakes.

 

Sri Aurobindo ~ Parabrahman