Guest guest Posted June 30, 2002 Report Share Posted June 30, 2002 Swami Sharvananda , in his commentory on Part II -Verse 4- of Kenopanishad , states as follows: Atman is never experienced as an object like the things of relartive experience. But along with everymental modification that gives rise to the relative experiences of life, the Atman is , as it were, blended, just as the experience of fire is blended in the experience of a red hot iron ball.For it is the intelligence, that is, the Atman which gives self-awareness to thoughts or mental modifications. The ignorant man lacking in fineness of understanding, is not able to disentangle the Atman,Who is thus implied as their Witness, in everyone of our cognitions as well as in the states of waking, dream and sleep,which contain all these cognitions.For the truely enlightened man,however ,every one of these mental modifictions means the simultenious revelation of the Atman as their Witness and substratum -Prati-bodha-viditum. It must,however,be noted that It is spoken of as the witness,only as long as It is thought of as in relation to the mental modifications which It vivifies by Its awareness. In Nirvikalpa samaadhi (the pure and unconditioned state of Divine conciousness) these modifications disappear,or rather sink into thei rwitnessing and vivifying substratum,namely the Atman.Then it is no longer spoken of as witness,though it remains the same entity;for when the objects dissappear,there is no meaning in speaking of the witness. It is only after the attainment of nirvikalpa samadhi that one really obtains the knowledge needed to disentangle the Atman as witness in and through every mentral modification on their re-appearing after the samadhi. Hari Om! Swaminarayan ea The commentary of Swami Shravananda was acute partiularly on the fraught matter of the 'witness' which has a dualistic flavour. Adjunctive and not contrary to that is my feeling (toiling in the foothills of atma vichara) that although the chain of intellect, mind, body, senses may represent a conceptual division of labour it is questionable how much it reflects lived reality. Amongst the experiments of nature is that which is called the 'locked-in' syndrome where you may be totally paralysed but for the capacity to blink and yet retain consciousness. Awful to contemplate from an able-bodied perspective but it seems that the patient's emotional response to their situation is muted. Think of the language, 'heart rending, gut wrenching, stomach churning, lump in the throat, warm feeling etc. and it will be seen that divorced from these 'concomitant' sensations there may be less impact in the brain areas that process these emotions. Perhaps the whole brain/mind, jiva, person is a locus of consciousness and the other is a reflection of our love for the naming of parts, hierarchy and chain of command from the subtle to the gross. It may also be useful sadhana to think outside that box. Sankara says that the intellect has no consciousness and the self no action. It is their mutual superimposition that is avidya "The intellect has no consciousness and the Self no action. The word 'knows' can, therefore, reasonably be applied to neither of them." (Chap.XVII #54 Prose Section Upadesasahasri) May I offer the speculation that the intellect has no consciousness because there is no such *thing* as the intellect. Go back then to the Heart as mentioned by the Rishis where 'deep thinking is deep feeling'.(Coleridge) Best Wishes,Michael _______________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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