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Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya

 

Namaste all,

 

I have a question about self-enquiry. I have been reading about this method,

but have gotten so many different interpretations of how you are suppose to

practice it, I am asking for a clairification here. The two major methods I

saw were 1: To concentrate on the feeling of individuality, or the "I"

thought, making that th eonly thought in your mind, until it falls to it's

source. And 2: Continuously enquirying "who am I?" or some similar

question. The first method I mentioned says that the second method is a

wrong interpretation, I should note. Please help me out with this. I've

been wanting to practice this method but am confused by all the different

interpretations I have gotten.

 

Namo Ramana

 

peace to all

 

Prem

 

 

 

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Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya

 

Namaste Sri Ram Chandran,

 

Okay thank you for that response. That clairifies it a little I think.

 

Namo Ramana

 

Prem

 

 

 

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Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya

 

Namaste Sri Greg!

 

Okay thank you! That makes a lot of sense. I'll try to start doing this and

see how it goes. thank you.

 

Namo Ramana

 

 

Prem

 

 

 

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Namaste Sri Prem:

 

Your question is quite paradoxical and self enquirty is beyond

interpretations and it goes beyond all peceptions! The 'self-enquiry'

of self-enquiry emerges from nowhere (it exists all the time but

clouded by our ignorance). For Bhagawan Ramana it emerged when he was

young and stayed on ever then!

 

I don't think that I can answer this question, only Brahman knows the

correct answer. All the four Mahavakyas focus on 'self-enquiry'

explicitly and implicitly:I am Brahman (Aham Brahmasmi);The Self is

Brahman (Ayam Atma Brahma);That thou art (Tat tvam asi) and

Intelligence is Brahman (Prajnanam Brahman)

 

In essence self-enquirer realizes that "Sarvam Brahmam mAyAm"

(Everything including the mAyA is nothing but the Brahman).

Self-enquiry is an understanding of the highest order before the

realziation of the self.

 

warmest regards,

 

Ram Chandran

 

 

advaitin, ObtainingMoksha@a... wrote:

> Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya

>

> Namaste all,

>

> I have a question about self-enquiry. I have been reading about

this method,

> but have gotten so many different interpretations of how you are

suppose to

> practice it, I am asking for a clairification here.

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Namaste,

 

Others on this list might have some quotations from Ramana Maharshi, but as

stated, the #1 and #2 below are sort of mis-interpretations, especially #2,

which can lead to reflexive, automatic, mantra-like repetition of the Who Am I

question. #1 can go wrong when it becomes a meditation, and then the mind

merely becomes fixed on a feeling, to no avail.

 

Self-enquiry is primarily a method of deep investigation, where you yearn and

strive to plunge to the bottom, experiencing what this "I" really is. This need

be done only once if the plunge is deep enough!

 

When a strong arising (like a feeling/sense/thought) comes up about something

that you are (a student, thinker, moral person, Indian, etc.), you can

immediately ask to whom this arising occurs. If the arising occurs to something

other than itself, then that arising cannot be the "I". Something must be

seeing it. And so, what is THAT, that seeing? To what does the seeing occur?

And so on, deeper and deeper, before the entire enterprise collapses in silence.

 

Peace to all!

 

--Greg

 

 

 

At 11:25 AM 7/1/02 -0400, ObtainingMoksha wrote:

>Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya

>

>Namaste all,

>

>I have a question about self-enquiry. I have been reading about this method,

>but have gotten so many different interpretations of how you are suppose to

>practice it, I am asking for a clairification here. The two major methods I

>saw were 1: To concentrate on the feeling of individuality, or the "I"

>thought, making that th eonly thought in your mind, until it falls to it's

>source. And 2: Continuously enquirying "who am I?" or some similar

>question. The first method I mentioned says that the second method is a

>wrong interpretation, I should note. Please help me out with this. I've

>been wanting to practice this method but am confused by all the different

>interpretations I have gotten.

>

>Namo Ramana

>

>peace to all

>

>Prem

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