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"madathilnair" <madathilnair> wrote:

>

> In a recent chat with a Muslim scholar, [...]

> He said I sounded very much like a Muslim!

> To me, Rumi is an advaitin! How much we have

> in common and how much do people misunderstand

still.

 

yes! the teachings are ONE and universally accessible

and, it's reasonable to say, have been sporadically

found in and by *all* established cultures in all

times. referred to as "the Perennial Philosophy," or

"Ageless Wisdom Teachings," or [connotation of the

universal meaning of the sankrit word] "Vedic

Teachings," are representative of the esoteric

counterpart of the *exoteric* ideologies

commonly/traditionally held by the masses.

 

and yes the misunderstanding is sustained by habit

patterns of thought that are products of social

conditioning, and nearly impossible to break for most.

free thinkers such as yourself are rare. and free

thinkers have the best chance of realizing the Self,

even if they don't put it in such terms! i would

remind all that ramana and ramakrishna were free

thinkers (so was rumi).

 

a way to help break the common socio-indoctrinated

habit patterns of thinking along rigid ideological

lines (as well as being a good corollary to the

atmavichara marga) is the following observation.

 

the greatest act of valor is the uncompromising dare

to be honest *with oneself*!

 

it is impossible to achieve perfection in such

honesty; the important thing is to probe as deep as

possible until you reach the place where fear lurks in

your psyche, for there is precisely where the

infliction is located [that is] responsible for

blocking your *primal fulfilment*. (depending on the

individual, there will be x number of fear dynamics to

encounter, and each has to be acknowledged and

overcome, by striking it with the sustained tapas

based on the living fact of ahambrahmasi [the

foundational non-dual principle of the Perennial

Philosophy].)

 

until this primal fulfilment is achieved, one will

suffer in *what appears to be* a primal belwilderment.

 

namaste,

frank

 

 

 

 

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Namaste,

 

Here is yet another expression of Frankji's point:

 

[ http://www.interfaith-center.org/keepingfaithwithinterfaith.htm ]

 

Abhishiktananda has said:

 

Every dharma (we might say Every religion) is for its followers the

supreme vehicle of the claims of the Absolute. However, behind the

namarupa, the names and the forms, external features such as creed,

rites etc., by which it is recognized and through which it is

transmitted, it bears within itself an urgent call to men to pass

beyond itself inasmuch as its essence is to be only the sign of the

Absolute. In fact, whatever the excellence of any religion, it

remains inevitably at the level of the signs and it remains on this

side of the Real not only in its structure and institutional forms,

but also in its attempts to formulate the inevitable Reality alike in

the mythical and conceptual images. The mystery to which it points

overflows its limits in every direction. Like the nucleus of the

atom, the innermost core of any religion explodes when the abyss of

man's consciousness is pierced to its depth by the ray of Pure

Awakening. Indeed, its true greatness lies precisely in its

potentiality of leading beyond itself.

 

 

Regards,

 

Sunder

 

 

 

 

 

 

advaitin, f maiello <egodust> wrote:

>

> "madathilnair" <madathilnair> wrote:

> >

> > To me, Rumi is an advaitin! How much we have

> > in common and how much do people misunderstand

> still.

>

> yes! the teachings are ONE and universally accessible

> and, it's reasonable to say, have been sporadically

> found in and by *all* established cultures in all

> times. referred to as "the Perennial Philosophy," or

> "Ageless Wisdom Teachings," or [connotation of the

> universal meaning of the sankrit word] "Vedic

> Teachings," are representative of the esoteric

> counterpart of the *exoteric* ideologies

> commonly/traditionally held by the masses.

> > the greatest act of valor is the uncompromising dare

> to be honest *with oneself*!

>

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