Guest guest Posted August 24, 2002 Report Share Posted August 24, 2002 This has been written by Prof. Sil of Oregon University.He has also written a book called 'Vivekananda:A Reassessment". http://www.lib.uchicago.edu/e/su/southasia/Narasingha.2.html#ftn.3 Finance - Get real-time stock quotes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2002 Report Share Posted August 24, 2002 Namaste Vinayakji. What we find may be true or untrue. There is no point debating or refuting. That would only create a vicious circle where we will waste our energies. As aspiring vedantins, can we afford to do that? We have an image of Swamiji that kindles our spiritual aspirations and propels us on the path to finding out who we really are, whereas, for the man who authored that book, Swamiji is just a guineapig to be dissected to prove some silly point which he considers very important to further himself. Such things have been done on other great men too. It keeps happening. That is the way of the world. Let us keep Swamiji's inspiring image intact in our heart without looking hither and thither. Let us pray to the Lord that whatever we see or hear be only good. Our prayer will be answered. Pranams. Madathil Nair __________________ advaitin, Vinayak Lohani <vinayaklohani> wrote: > > This has been written by Prof. Sil of Oregon University.He has also written a book called 'Vivekananda:A Reassessment". > > http://www.lib.uchicago.edu/e/su/southasia/Narasingha.2.html#ftn.3 > > > > > > Finance - Get real-time stock quotes > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2002 Report Share Posted August 24, 2002 Hari OM! Narayana Smrithis! Blessed self, Instead of meditating and doing Satsang and prayers, we are really doing insignificant things, which is not at all true and just for our mental satisfaction, about the great Rishi of Modern India. He is one of the Saptha rishis, how can he be compared to an ordinary mortal man! Swamiji is immortal! Nobody has anyright to judge him until and unless you realize that you are pure Brahman! "If we look things with a coloured glass everything looks coloured" Dear Moderators, Kindly do not encourage these kind of articles, which is far away from truth, and only imagination of polluted human minds, in our advaitin list, for the benefit of sincere members. With Love & OM! Krishna Prasad --- madathilnair <madathilnair wrote: > Namaste Vinayakji. > > What we find may be true or untrue. There is no point debating or > refuting. That would only create a vicious circle where we will > waste our energies. As aspiring vedantins, can we afford to do > that? We have an image of Swamiji that kindles our spiritual > aspirations and propels us on the path to finding out who we really > > are, whereas, for the man who authored that book, Swamiji is just a > > guineapig to be dissected to prove some silly point which he > considers very important to further himself. Such things have been > > done on other great men too. It keeps happening. That is the way > of > the world. Let us keep Swamiji's inspiring image intact in our > heart > without looking hither and thither. Let us pray to the Lord that > whatever we see or hear be only good. Our prayer will be answered. > > Pranams. > > Madathil Nair > > __________________ > > > advaitin, Vinayak Lohani <vinayaklohani> wrote: > > > > This has been written by Prof. Sil of Oregon University.He has > also > written a book called 'Vivekananda:A Reassessment". > > > > > http://www.lib.uchicago.edu/e/su/southasia/Narasingha.2.html#ftn.3 > > > > > > > > > > > > Finance - Get real-time stock quotes > > > > > > Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 Hi, Truth, whatever it is, can never be harmful. If indeed Vivekananda had his weaknesses as claimed, then, there is no harm in facing up to this fact. We should be able to learn as much from his weaknesses as from his lectures. If pure dualists like Christians are today objective enough to accept Jesus's possible relationship with Mary Magadaline and so on, it would be shameful if we tried to white wash our 'heros'. Servile hero worship cannot be the hallmark of an advaitin. Regards. Sriram Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 Hari OM! Narayana Smrithis! Blessed Self, Instead of proving & again proving in the intellectual level,(because human intellect is never satisfied if you get the best also) come out and do not become always advaitin and arguing about great realized personalities, Which You and I has not reached to judge. Just for argument sake, for the intellectual and ego satisfcation, please do not participate in this list. Thourough sincere study & meditation only will give answer for all these unwanted ponderings. These things comes because of ignorance. Moderators please make sure that these kind of character assasinating mails are not posted in these list. With Love & OM! Krishna Prasad --- sriram rao <sriramraot wrote: > Hi, > > Truth, whatever it is, can never be harmful. If > indeed Vivekananda had his weaknesses as claimed, > then, there is no harm in facing up to this fact. We > should be able to learn as much from his weaknesses as > from his lectures. > > If pure dualists like Christians are today objective > enough to accept Jesus's possible relationship with > Mary Magadaline and so on, it would be shameful if we > tried to white wash our 'heros'. > > Servile hero worship cannot be the hallmark of an > advaitin. > > Regards. > > Sriram > > > > > > > > Finance - Get real-time stock quotes > http://finance. > Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 I don't understand. It seems that there is a problem with a viewpoint which different. Is it too sensitive a subject? Then perhaps no one should ever post or try to have a discussion in this group. Indeed why have the group at all. I didn't see any argument or character assassination, nor did I see particular support for the views criticizing Vivekananda, only a request for some tolerance. Prior posts on this subject correctly addressed the issue. Let us focus on the inspiration which Vivekananda provides us and also accept his humanity. With that view, there is no opposition, no duality and the matter can drop quite easily. Addressing a post with mantra and closing with "Love & Om" in an email that borders on being a flame email seems contradictory to me. Just my opinion. advaitin, Krishna Prasad <rkrishp99> wrote: > Hari OM! Narayana Smrithis! > > Blessed Self, > > Instead of proving & again proving in the intellectual level, (because > human intellect is never satisfied if you get the best also) come out > and do not become always advaitin and arguing about great realized > personalities, Which You and I has not reached to judge. > > Just for argument sake, for the intellectual and ego satisfcation, > please do not participate in this list. Thourough sincere study & > meditation only will give answer for all these unwanted ponderings. > These things comes because of ignorance. > > Moderators please make sure that these kind of character assasinating > mails are not posted in these list. > > With Love & OM! > > Krishna Prasad > > > --- sriram rao <sriramraot> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Truth, whatever it is, can never be harmful. If > > indeed Vivekananda had his weaknesses as claimed, > > then, there is no harm in facing up to this fact. We > > should be able to learn as much from his weaknesses as > > from his lectures. > > > > If pure dualists like Christians are today objective > > enough to accept Jesus's possible relationship with > > Mary Magadaline and so on, it would be shameful if we > > tried to white wash our 'heros'. > > > > Servile hero worship cannot be the hallmark of an > > advaitin. > > > > Regards. > > > > Sriram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Finance - Get real-time stock quotes > > http://finance. > > > > > > > Finance - Get real-time stock quotes > http://finance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 Hari OM! Narayana Smrithis! Blessed Self, Johnji Wrote: I didn't see any argument or character assassination, nor did I see particular support for the views criticizing Vivekananda, only a request for some tolerance. Prior posts on this subject correctly addressed the issue. Let us focus on the inspiration which Vivekananda provides us and also accept his humanity. With that view, there is no opposition, no duality and the matter can drop quite easily. Addressing a post with mantra and closing with "Love & Om" in an email that borders on being a flame email seems contradictory to me. Just my opinion. Krishna Prasad Wrote, Thanks for your opinion, view point, for Some this is a kind of disease, to pin point, things which does not have any truth, about our Great Rishis, This is not a list to discuss the weaknesses (which is not true) of Rishis, and other Swamis, this is to discuss Advaita, of Sri Shankaracharya Swamigal. You are welcome to have your own view points and arguments of the subject matter Advaita. These things has to be written for everybody's benefit. With Love & OM! Krishna Prasad --- johnrloganis <johnrloganis wrote: > I don't understand. > It seems that there is a problem with a viewpoint which different. > Is > it too sensitive a subject? > Then perhaps no one should ever post or try to have a discussion in > > this group. Indeed why have the group at all. > > I didn't see any argument or character assassination, nor did I see > > particular support for the views criticizing Vivekananda, only a > request for some tolerance. > > Prior posts on this subject correctly addressed the issue. > Let us focus on the inspiration which Vivekananda provides us and > also accept his humanity. With that view, there is no opposition, > no > duality and the matter can drop quite easily. > > Addressing a post with mantra and closing with "Love & Om" in an > email that borders on being a flame email seems contradictory to > me. > Just my opinion. > > advaitin, Krishna Prasad <rkrishp99> wrote: > > Hari OM! Narayana Smrithis! > > > > Blessed Self, > > > > Instead of proving & again proving in the intellectual level, > (because > > human intellect is never satisfied if you get the best also) come > > out > > and do not become always advaitin and arguing about great > realized > > personalities, Which You and I has not reached to judge. > > > > Just for argument sake, for the intellectual and ego > satisfcation, > > please do not participate in this list. Thourough sincere study & > > meditation only will give answer for all these unwanted > ponderings. > > These things comes because of ignorance. > > > > Moderators please make sure that these kind of character > assasinating > > mails are not posted in these list. > > > > With Love & OM! > > > > Krishna Prasad > > > > > > --- sriram rao <sriramraot> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Truth, whatever it is, can never be harmful. If > > > indeed Vivekananda had his weaknesses as claimed, > > > then, there is no harm in facing up to this fact. We > > > should be able to learn as much from his weaknesses as > > > from his lectures. > > > > > > If pure dualists like Christians are today objective > > > enough to accept Jesus's possible relationship with > > > Mary Magadaline and so on, it would be shameful if we > > > tried to white wash our 'heros'. > > > > > > Servile hero worship cannot be the hallmark of an > > > advaitin. > > > > > > Regards. > > > > > > Sriram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Finance - Get real-time stock quotes > > > http://finance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Finance - Get real-time stock quotes > > http://finance. > > Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 Dear Krishna Prasad, Thanks for your mail. I am sure we all will learn a lot from mature & evolved souls such as yourself. Thanks again. Sriram --- Krishna Prasad <rkrishp99 wrote: > Hari OM! Narayana Smrithis! > > Blessed Self, > > Instead of proving & again proving in the > intellectual level,(because > human intellect is never satisfied if you get the > best also) come out > and do not become always advaitin and arguing about > great realized > personalities, Which You and I has not reached to > judge. > > Just for argument sake, for the intellectual and ego > satisfcation, > please do not participate in this list. Thourough > sincere study & > meditation only will give answer for all these > unwanted ponderings. > These things comes because of ignorance. > > Moderators please make sure that these kind of > character assasinating > mails are not posted in these list. > > With Love & OM! > > Krishna Prasad > > > --- sriram rao <sriramraot wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Truth, whatever it is, can never be harmful. If > > indeed Vivekananda had his weaknesses as claimed, > > then, there is no harm in facing up to this fact. > We > > should be able to learn as much from his > weaknesses as > > from his lectures. > > > > If pure dualists like Christians are today > objective > > enough to accept Jesus's possible relationship > with > > Mary Magadaline and so on, it would be shameful if > we > > tried to white wash our 'heros'. > > > > Servile hero worship cannot be the hallmark of an > > advaitin. > > > > Regards. > > > > Sriram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Finance - Get real-time stock quotes > > http://finance. > > > > > > > Finance - Get real-time stock quotes > http://finance. > Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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