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Namaste.

 

Thank You all (esp. Nair-ji, ProfVK-ji, Madhava-ji) for helping me through

these verses.

 

This may not be shaastriya but I tried to map out the analogies that came up

during the discussions... more for my own understanding than for anything

else.

Would appreciate if someone can please shine the light of critical review on

it and give me comments that fall back on shaastriya knowledgebase.

 

*** Analogy # 1 : Movie

Creation : Operator, Projector and Film

Reality made up from :

Substratum : Screen

Projection Of : Actors, Objects and Situations

Observer : Audience / Viewer

Dissolution Caused By : End of Movie

Comments : (1). The Lord doesn't need any other apparatus to create Creation

(unlike the Operator requiring a Projector and Film) (2). Also, The Lord is

all - Projector, Screen and Actors ! (3). The images flitting on the screen

are just that - only images and not at all substantial. They only contribute

to 'virtual' reality !. At the end of the movie, the 'virtual' reality

collapses into Nothing !"

 

*** Analogy # 2 : Dream

Creation : Dreamer

Reality made up from :

Substratum : "Dreamscape" / Dreamworld

Projection Of : Dream Persons, Objects & Situations

Observer : Dreamer

Dissolution Caused By : Waking Up

Comments : Here the 'virtual' reality is designed and executed by the

Dreamer within the Dreamworld. But when the dreamer wakes up, the dreamworld

collapses into the Dreamer. All the Dream Persons, Objects & Situations

collapse into the Dreamer.

 

*** Analogy # 3 : Humans (or creatures afflicted with Ego)

Creation : The Lord

Reality made up from :

Substratum : World, Time & Space

Projection Of : My, Mine, Not Me, Not Mine

Observer : Ego-Me

Dissolution Caused By : Self-Realization

Comments : Here the reality is perceived 'real' but is actually 'virtual'.

When Ego-Me realizes the true nature of Self, that is when the virtual

'bubble' bursts and the so-called 'real' world collapses into the Self.

 

*** The Only Reality (No longer an analogy !) : The Lord

Creation : The Lord

Reality made up from :

Substratum : The Lord

Projection Of : The Lord

Observer : The Lord

Dissolution Caused By : Not Applicable !!

Comments : NONE !!! Since this is the ultimate substratum.

 

Ram2

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Namaste Ram(2)-Ji.

 

I believe you need only the last section of your post quoted below:

 

QUOTE

 

*** The Only Reality (No longer an analogy !) : The Lord

Creation : The Lord

Reality made up from :

Substratum : The Lord

Projection Of : The Lord

Observer : The Lord

Dissolution Caused By : Not Applicable !!

Comments : NONE !!! Since this is the ultimate substratum.

 

UNQUOTE

 

If you permit me, I will change the comments as follows:

 

Comments: Since all answers are "The Lord", no creation, projection

or dissolution has taken place. As such, there is no substratum

required too. The Lord "remains" - what a poor verb, oh, humans!

The Lord is Ram2. But Ram2 keeps seeing creation. What shall he do?

Repeat his own name "without the two". What will happen then? He

is "then one without a second". He "becomes" his conclusion.

 

I am not playing with words, Ram2-Ji. That is the ultimate message

of your post and you know it. Let us, therefore, forget the other

analogies. You don't need them any more. There, of course, is

nothing asAstrIya in them. Thanks for the efforts.

 

Best regards.

 

Madathil Nair

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advaitin, "Thommandra, Rama K." <Rama.Thommandra@a...>

wrote:

> This may not be shaastriya but I tried to map out the analogies

that came up

> during the discussions... more for my own understanding than for

anything

> else.

> Would appreciate if someone can please shine the light of critical

review on

> it and give me comments that fall back on shaastriya knowledgebase.

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Dear Nair-ji,

 

I realize what you had written was much more than mere playing with the Ram2

word and I thank you for triggering the thoughts that you did.

 

Ram2

 

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> Comments:

> The Lord is Ram2. But Ram2 keeps seeing creation. What shall he do?

> Repeat his own name "without the two". What will happen then? He

> is "then one without a second". He "becomes" his conclusion.

UNQUOATE

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