Guest guest Posted November 27, 2002 Report Share Posted November 27, 2002 12:31 27/11/02 This relates to Message 15255 of Kuntimaddi Sadananda and is perhaps the source of his approach in that post. It is to be found in the chapter on inference in the Vedanta Paribhasa of Dharmaraja Adhvarindra tran. by Swami Madhavananda pub. advaita ashrama pg.80 "It cannot be urged: How can Brahman which is colourless, be an object of ocular cognition? For colour etc., which are without colour, are objects of perception. Nor does the accepted principle that a colourless substance is incapable of being perceived by the eye etc. (go against us), for according to our view, the fact of Brahman's being a substance is unfounded. You hold that a substance is that which is the substratum of qualities, or which is an ingherent cause. But Brahman, which is devoid of qualities, cannot be the substratum of qualities; nor is It an inherent cause, for inherence is unfounded. Or, even if Brahman be admitted to be a substance, there is still no contradiction in Its being an object of ocular cognition, like time, which is colourless." Leaving aside the matter of whether Brahman is a substance for now it seems clear that Adhvarindra is not commited to the idea that a substance is the substratum of qualities as can be seen from the important qualification 'You hold....'. The general tendency of his argument is - even should we suppose that your premises are generally true they are not universally so. In that case any individual instance may be an exception. (Aside)Is this an upadhi? On page 182 he makes another remark about colour which is very interesting - "Because although colour which is devoid of any colour, we observe that it is reflected." Here I believe we have the concept of colour as such as in 'penny plain, twopence coloured'. How is that the object of any perception or reflection? Sankara held that these concepts were mental acts and though they were not given in sense perception, were used in it. In that way Adhvarindra may be thinking of seeing them as reflected in the mind. The problem is: how can you find such items as 'coloured' unless you in some sense already have them. Well and good what has this to do with advaita? If the primal situation is that the triad of knower, knowing and the known is a simultaneous manifestation that is kept in 'existence' by mind then anything that seems to offer an alternative primal situation i.e. a mind only view in which the known has only a mediate existence, will obscure the aim of dhyana. "The Creator is Himself, at one and the same time, knowledge, the knower and the known.... There exists nothing which is not united to Him and which He does not find in His own essence. He is the type of all being, and all things exist in Him under their most pure and perfect form." (Moses ben Jacob Cordovero, Kabalist, 1522-1570) _______________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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